gee jay Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nieve or blind faith? There are far better sides than Eastbourne this year . missed a trick by not using Kelsey I think. But given that he hasn'tsigned anywhere else he is clearly being kept for a switch during the season as soon as they realise that their hotshot reserves are pants. I just don't see this side as a winner. Hughes been around for years. Same for Hopwood. Good lads but not going anywhere other than where they're at. Wood can't make a bike work for 2 meetings in a row. Knight not all he's being made out to be. Hope Rich Andrews can keep the momentum from last year. Genuine good guy and deservedly skipper. who needs to make anything up , read your own post." nieve or blind faith " - like you know more about the team than the dugards. "far better sides " i see a couple of slightly stronger sides on paper which means nothing in january . didn't "miss a trick" at all, it would have been hard for kelsey in the main body of the team this year and everybody but you knows it including kelsey. "reserves are pants" that's not you saying that they're rubbish at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Show me where I've made the statements you allege. sorry I'm not the sycophantic fan you'd clearly prefer. All I've said is I don't rate this team as much as last year . As I stated some time ago I hope to be proved wrong. and it's guys like Pitstop who've put in and done plenty for the club over the last 10 years Dam it, you have asked so I need to respond! Okay, before I do this I have to say I have no issue with what you say and when I say the things that guys like you say make me laugh, I dont mean I think you are wrong, I mean you seem to write them as a statement of fact rather than an opinion. If all the statements below (made by you) had the words 'I think' or 'in my opinion' ahead of them I would be fine with it. these forums always make me laugh because people write things like they are fact rather than opinion. I am pretty sure if I could be bothered to go through the 2015 Eastbourne thread where people are saying 'Eastbourne will go nowhere this year' So looking at the 'statements' below 1, There are far better sides than Eastbourne this year How do you know this? You dont actually know what any of the riders are going to go like? 2, Wood can't make a bike work for 2 meetings in a row Simply not true, yes he has his fair share of problem but managed to have a pretty gp season despite them. 3. Knight not all he's being made out to be. Again, how do you know, its not like he has been around for years? You could well be right but you cant make it a statement, its an opinion. 4. Hopwood will never be any better than the solid heat leader he is. Not enough in the tank this year at Eastbourne. They will not be winning a treble this year. Maybe true and could be all we need anyway but who knows, knock a couple of stone off the saddle of that bike and the talent could shine through, I know I am being pedantic and of course you know they are opinions, its just you (and lots of other people) write stuff like they are fact. And yes, I am sure you do it to get a bit of a reaction and debate, go on, admit it. What I like however is the fact that you wish the team well. And I respect anyone that has helped any team and/or rider in anyway. I have done a bit myself, albeit very small, with both the Elite and National League clubs, ps, I have edited the post you referred to as the English was terrible and didn't make sense! Edited January 10, 2016 by stevec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 No we won't win the treble because we aren't in the NT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Oh and btw I actually agree this team does not look as strong as what last years team was. I dont see two riders that can do what Georgie and Bradley did this year and increase their average by so much. But this year we only need to get in the top 4 and I do believe we will do that. From there and with the team we have at the end of the year, that will be stronger I think we can win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaptooth Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Steve... of course it's only my opinion . geejay ... maybe you not been around long enough to realise I love a wind up . But. ...... who has the reserve that's ridden Somerset regularly actually beaten?? I hope Norm and Connor get the track ready for practice early this year 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Leagues are won on the track over a season not on paper a lot of last years riders are on false high averages gong to be a lot harder this year for these guys to put much on there averages don't count out any team for a few shock results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Oh and btw I actually agree this team does not look as strong as what last years team was. I dont see two riders that can do what Georgie and Bradley did this year and increase their average by so much. But this year we only need to get in the top 4 and I do believe we will do that. From there and with the team we have at the end of the year, that will be stronger I think we can win the league. Play off system= Eastbourne will always win in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASBLOKE Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just read through 38 pages (get a life), some of us do write some rubbishe don't we !!! Once again, I think Martin and Connor have put together a very competitive side. I think it will be tough to stop Birmingham this year, Drury still upset about us using BWD and Spiller last year. I'm sure he will have something up his sleeve if Wodgeneck doesn't fire on all cylinders. But like last year, the EAGLES will be the REAL CHAMPIONS by winning the play off !!!!! Predict 1st, Brummies 2nd, Eagles 3rd, Rye House 4th, Coventry 5th, Mildyhall 6th, Cradley 7th, Buxton 8th, Kings Lynn 9th, Belle Vue Bottom, Stoke Lets just hope that it,s a great speedway year, serious injuries to a minimum, and a British world champion by October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just read through 38 pages (get a life), some of us do write some rubbishe don't we !!! Once again, I think Martin and Connor have put together a very competitive side. I think it will be tough to stop Birmingham this year, Drury still upset about us using BWD and Spiller last year. I'm sure he will have something up his sleeve if Wodgeneck doesn't fire on all cylinders. But like last year, the EAGLES will be the REAL CHAMPIONS by winning the play off !!!!! Predict 1st, Brummies 2nd, Eagles 3rd, Rye House 4th, Coventry 5th, Mildyhall 6th, Cradley 7th, Buxton 8th, Kings Lynn 9th, Belle Vue Bottom, Stoke Lets just hope that it,s a great speedway year, serious injuries to a minimum, and a British world champion by October. You forgot IOW & Kent bud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Play off system= Eastbourne will always win in the end Would be nice if you could give it a rest now mate, we get the picture. Of course it would also be nice to known who proposed play off's for the NL and what the voting for accepting the proposal was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Play off system= Eastbourne will always win in the end Excellent news. I shall get the champagne ordered now, cheers Brummiestormer ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Would be nice if you could give it a rest now mate, we get the picture. Of course it would also be nice to known who proposed play off's for the NL and what the voting for accepting the proposal was. Yes it would. At least half of the promoters clearly don't have the view that Eastbourne are unbeatable over 2 legs, or are they thinking that more fans would turn up to watch them lose on aggregate to Eastbourne in the POs than the Gold Cup?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Don't get the moaning, 12 clubs voted as a majority, done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Sports teams have difficulty in making ends meet in the vast majority of cases and there's no doubt, whatever anyone's feelings about them, that Playoffs get people through the turnstiles. In an ideal world it would be the team that finishes top wins the championship, but we don't live in an ideal world. If your team is 6th with a few matches to go then it keeps the interest up and more casual fans coming in. Plus, if you do make it, then potentially 2 extra home matches with bumper crowds. Edited January 11, 2016 by solrac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Sports teams have difficulty in making ends meet in the vast majority of cases and there's no doubt, whatever anyone's feelings about them, that Playoffs get people through the turnstiles. In an ideal world it would be the team that finishes top wins the championship, but we don't live in an ideal world. If your team is 6th with a few matches to go then it keeps the interest up and more casual fans coming in. Plus, if you do make it, then potentially 2 extra home matches with bumper crowds. Spot on there is nothting like a club that has had a bad run for what ever reason, Its good to keep clubs in the running to make the top 4 and then get the rewards in crowds, every club has a chance, there is nothing to say that if the reserves do well after practice on the home track, and step up the game they will start the season with a false average, this would mean that if young Dugard needs to fill a gap in then he can. i hope i am right with all the rules, thats as long as the average is higher then what his finish average was, i think was a 4.9 wouldnt take much to get that from the reserves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes it would. At least half of the promoters clearly don't have the view that Eastbourne are unbeatable over 2 legs, or are they thinking that more fans would turn up to watch them lose on aggregate to Eastbourne in the POs than the Gold Cup?? Nailed it. It's a decision based on clicks on the turnstiles and nothing to do with the integrity of the league. ---------------- I don't think it automatically makes the currently named Eastie team the favourite. Cradley pushed them close last season with far from a full strength team. I think what's more relevant is that I suspect Eastie will look to change the team around the second half of the summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 The last 38 pages just show what a great unpredictable sport we have and we all see it in a slightly different way, obviously mostly with a bias towards the team we support. The dreadful downside and something none of us wish to see is always the injuries that affect the sport, but even that throws so much unpredictability to the season.So at this point let's hope for as near an injury free season we can get and the best team win, obviously I think that'll be the Eagles, but that's my bias! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Have to say i agree with the injury from as we all suffered it from all directions last year, but hands up to Eastbourne and the paying public they all dug deep and the team all ended up with the a neck brack. Speedway is a tough sport but a neck brace is so important and i think silly little things like pitmats being the wrong size or not allowed to have a undersuit made out of nylon, all the C**P about that why not make it safer #43. Best rider in the world like Darcy ends up in a wheel chair, Sad days, Danny Warrick was also close to a big problem so come on BSPA look at it make the riders wear a neck brace or an Air Jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Have to say i agree with the injury from as we all suffered it from all directions last year, but hands up to Eastbourne and the paying public they all dug deep and the team all ended up with the a neck brack. Speedway is a tough sport but a neck brace is so important and i think silly little things like pitmats being the wrong size or not allowed to have a undersuit made out of nylon, all the C**P about that why not make it safer #43. Best rider in the world like Darcy ends up in a wheel chair, Sad days, Danny Warrick was also close to a big problem so come on BSPA look at it make the riders wear a neck brace or an Air Jacket. Not all riders think there safer though (Neck brace especially) I remember Tai saying they were restrictive and no safer, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 The riders this year all have a chance of progressing if they can do so the Eagles will once again be competitive and hopefully the play-offs. Not sure how anyone can say this team isn't as strong as Eagles 2015 ... the Eagles that won the Cup treble wasn't the original team. As both David Mason + Danny Warwick were injured pretty early in the season and it was the excellent work Connor Dugard did getting replacements in throughout the season that was the deciding factor . Hopwood was excellent ; as were all the signings giving the team more impetus and strength. It is unlikely anybody could guarantee the progress that BWD, Andrews, Wood and Spiller would make when they were brought into the side. League looks as though it will be ultra competitive which is good news for the National League .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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