flipper11 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Actually not the case I'm afraid, flipper11. The Planning Committee's decision when relayed back (though not evident at the actual Hearing itself) was that the extended curfew to 9.30pm was for Elite League only (and as you say, on Fridays). An illogical decision because obviously any 'issues' the Council had about so-called "noise" (in fact no noise nuisance has ever been caused) would be no different whatever division or level of Speedway takes place at Central Park. But nonetheless that is the current state of play regarding Planning. Perhaps the council think that because elite riders go faster they make less noise than NL riders! Did I read that meetings on Fridays should be finished by 9.10pm unless there are re-runs & then it can be extended to 9.30? Anyway what ever time it starts n finishes & whatever league I cant wait for the season to start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Perhaps the council think that because elite riders go faster they make less noise than NL riders! Did I read that meetings on Fridays should be finished by 9.10pm unless there are re-runs & then it can be extended to 9.30? Anyway what ever time it starts n finishes & whatever league I cant wait for the season to start. Yes the wording (with that spurious EL clause of course) is that the meetings on a Friday have to end at 9.10pm but can go onto half past to take account of reruns. I think it's fair to say that a meeting starting at 7.30pm would easily finish by 9.10pm IF there actually weren't any race stoppages and subsequent reruns, so that's a largely academic stipulation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Go and get Kelsey D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Go and get Kelsey D. It's quite likely he isn't coming back to Eastbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Go and get Kelsey D. If he was a 3 pointer I would have said without question but on 4.49 he seems a little dear? For that amount of points Bowtell, Hume, Hunter are available and would all do a similar / better job. Bacon at 4.41 seems a bargain in comparison. However I wouldn't be to disappointed with Kelsey riding @ 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Strange, but I failed to see him as anything other than a trier. If the Eastbourne setup could not get the best out of him I fail to see what Kent have to offer him. Kent need lower order racers who will add 1 or more points to their averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Strange, but I failed to see him as anything other than a trier. If the Eastbourne setup could not get the best out of him I fail to see what Kent have to offer him. Kent need lower order racers who will add 1 or more points to their averages. They offer him a team run not by his dad and brother. Surely it puts less pressure on him not riding at Eastbourne as he doesn't have his dad all over his back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Strange, but I failed to see him as anything other than a trier. If the Eastbourne setup could not get the best out of him I fail to see what Kent have to offer him. Kent need lower order racers who will add 1 or more points to their averages. He's still very young and has the years and talent on his side to improve. Like many riders when they start out in the NL, all he would have to do to add that point you speak of is to learn to stay on the bike when in a scoring position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 He's still very young and has the years and talent on his side to improve. Like many riders when they start out in the NL, all he would have to do to add that point you speak of is to learn to stay on the bike when in a scoring position. Staying on the bike it is then. As Alex 2000 says removing pressure may assist. The big question is that having two 3 pointers in the ranks are we going to do a 2015 and see them fail again? Does lightning strike twice, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Staying on the bike it is then. As Alex 2000 says removing pressure may assist. The big question is that having two 3 pointers in the ranks are we going to do a 2015 and see them fail again? Does lightning strike twice, maybe? It was having three three pointers that really hurt Kent in 2015. If they use two in 2016 and one can kick on then they will be more competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 It was having three three pointers that really hurt Kent in 2015. If they use two in 2016 and one can kick on then they will be more competitive. Possibly strengthening the middle order with riders likely to add a point or so would be a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Possibly strengthening the middle order with riders likely to add a point or so would be a good thing! we currently have no middle order, that is the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 It was having three three pointers that really hurt Kent in 2015. If they use two in 2016 and one can kick on then they will be more competitive. I don't think it was having 3 x 3 pointers it was more who they were. None of them kicked on and improved at any stage. To be fair the reserves only found out they had a place at the press and practice day and even then the order was changed. Until Len gets a better grasp of who is doing what in the MDL / junior championships Kent are always going to struggle to find 3 point gems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 No middle order may be a bit hash as the top 4 did their job, it was the fact that a 3 point rider had to fill the number two slot. Aaron was the only experienced rider who could have filled that spot. Sadly of the 3 x 3 pointers none were up to it, though Danno was the likeliest to have succeeded. It was really tough on Jamie expecting him to fill the spot with any success. Adam to my mind should have added to his score but sadly it was not to be. The blame not only rests with Len, but also with Roger and Chris, they should all be aware of the bright youngsters. The real problem rests with riders availability and an 18:30 start may be restrictive for many. It is easy to slate and apportion blame but much harder to actually do the job. We need lads who really wish to ride for the club and a couple more James Shanes' may be what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I don't think it was having 3 x 3 pointers it was more who they were. None of them kicked on and improved at any stage. To be fair the reserves only found out they had a place at the press and practice day and even then the order was changed. Until Len gets a better grasp of who is doing what in the MDL / junior championships Kent are always going to struggle to find 3 point gems. Sorry I should have said three three pointers come the end of the season. Think they got caught out by naming riders before the points limit was announced too. It could be argued changes should have been made before Ayres' average went up too and they didn't come. Hopefully the Kings will get a couple of decent reserves in next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistlegang Posted November 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 No middle order may be a bit hash as the top 4 did their job, it was the fact that a 3 point rider had to fill the number two slot. Aaron was the only experienced rider who could have filled that spot. Sadly of the 3 x 3 pointers none were up to it, though Danno was the likeliest to have succeeded. It was really tough on Jamie expecting him to fill the spot with any success. Adam to my mind should have added to his score but sadly it was not to be. The blame not only rests with Len, but also with Roger and Chris, they should all be aware of the bright youngsters. The real problem rests with riders availability and an 18:30 start may be restrictive for many. It is easy to slate and apportion blame but much harder to actually do the job. We need lads who really wish to ride for the club and a couple more James Shanes' may be what we need. I love Baseby - he is a perfect number 2 - his carried forward average was the problem. We had no support for our top 4 and i don't think our reserves won a NL home heat 2 all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Until Len gets a better grasp of who is doing what in the MDL / junior championships Kent are always going to struggle to find 3 point gems. Unfortunately, Kent is way out in the sticks, the wrong side of London; no MDL rider is going to want to go there. Don't forget that they don't even get expenses! What they need to do is organise a Southern Junior League with Iwade and Rye House, and possibly Eastbourne, or any extinct clubs as per Milton Keynes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 I love Baseby - he is a perfect number 2 - his carried forward average was the problem. We had no support for our top 4 and i don't think our reserves won a NL home heat 2 all season. Heat 8 was the other heat that the home team needed to win and in 2014 we often gained a 5 - 1, not so this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Now Lens at Kent, maybe Steve Boxall will join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Now Lens at Kent, maybe Steve Boxall will join. The points limit would have to go up a long way to accommodate Boxall. It would leave Kent with a very long tail with Boxall, Ayres & hopefully Shanes in the side. If Kent were going to use a high average number 1 id much rather have Morley over Boxall. Far more reliable in terms of performances, machinery & attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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