Alan_Jones Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 By that argument why not allow MDL teams sign riders as tradable assets? ...with the MDL teams having to buy them from their parents who will have spent a fortune on their development already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 By that argument why not allow MDL teams sign riders as tradable assets? They aren't clubs under the jurisdiction of the BSPA though, are they? The amateur league follows a completely different system where they make up their own rules and league structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 They aren't clubs under the jurisdiction of the BSPA though, are they? The amateur league follows a completely different system where they make up their own rules and league structure. The development leagues are included in the full SCB regulations & the BSPA hold the rights to the use of club names. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 By that argument why not allow MDL teams sign riders as tradable assets? They would then have to pay them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Just to let you know that Jack Parkinson-Blackburn will be on the HomeStraightEDP podcast this Thursday. Can be found here:- https://www.acast.com/homestraight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Birmingham Speedway @BrumSpeedway 2m2 minutes ago BREAKING NEWS Birmingham have had their bid to bring in temporary cover to replace Tom Perry turned down by the BSPA. Full story to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Birmingham Speedway @BrumSpeedway 2m2 minutes ago BREAKING NEWS Birmingham have had their bid to bring in temporary cover to replace Tom Perry turned down by the BSPA. Full story to follow. No Richard Hall in the NL then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) No Richard Hall in the NL then. obviously not, I think he had joked about helping us out when we needed it. Edited May 22, 2016 by Al3x200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Now confirmed that Hall can't ride because of the average he achieved in the 2004 CL season!!!! Yet Drury points out that the rule book only uses averages attained from 2011 onwards, regardless of the fact that I'm pretty sure the CL didn't even use averages then, it was gradings! This feels like Craig Cook part 2 but maybe the BSPA can brush the lower profile case under the carpet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUFC_Brummie Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 This sport, unbelievable. They really are stuck in the past..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Although it is a bummer for the brummer management I personally would rather watch JPB Jack smith and all taking an extra ride. They are all young talent and the future of the sport. No offence to Richard but 2004 as the average suggests and still at this level doesn't really fit the mould for the rest of the team. However in no way do I agree with BSPA and he should be able to be signed Edited May 22, 2016 by Al3x200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Now confirmed that Hall can't ride because of the average he achieved in the 2004 CL season!!!! Yet Drury points out that the rule book only uses averages attained from 2011 onwards, regardless of the fact that I'm pretty sure the CL didn't even use averages then, it was gradings! This feels like Craig Cook part 2 but maybe the BSPA can brush the lower profile case under the carpet... 2004 was averages, gradings came in in 2005. The average would have included bonus points in 2004 though. Surely this casts a cloud over the likes of Clifton, Purchase and Rutherford who have come in on assessed averages this season despite having already achieved CL/NL averages in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 2004 was averages, gradings came in in 2005. The average would have included bonus points in 2004 though. Surely this casts a cloud over the likes of Clifton, Purchase and Rutherford who have come in on assessed averages this season despite having already achieved CL/NL averages in the past. The difference is they were a bit naff back then & hall wasn't. He is likely to change a result now & they are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 The difference is they were a bit naff back then & hall wasn't. He is likely to change a result now & they are not. Clifton and Rutherford averaged more in their last CL/NL seasons than their assessed starting averages for this season. Purchase may well have done too thinking about it, no difference whatsoever. Even Luke Bowen's last CL average was probably higher than the figure he started on this year at Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Complete joke!! :mad: , Im outraged to be honest. How fair is it that they can use an average so far back when the league has changed and he has as a rider. It seems the case now that if your face fits you get a certain rule and if it doesnt then you dont. Dont matter who runs the BSPA its the same old crap and on that basis they wont get a penny from me. Vested interests rules yet again. Edited May 22, 2016 by Brummie Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I applaud the BSPA for blocking this move, there is no way the likes of Hall, at their age and level of experience, should be plying their trade in our NL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I see two sides to this issue: Firstly as Screm says, this is supposed to be a league for developing young talent and shouldn't be a place for oldies like Hall. Perhaps there could be a "Seniors" event(s) / league like they have in Golf and Tennis if there is a demand for people of his generation. Secondly though is the arbitrary way that the BSPA decide on what's in the best interests of British Speedway, seemingly depending on which side of bed the decision makers get out of. Bowen and Purchase have been mentioned and this inconsistency and abject ineptitude is simply symptomatic of what is wrong with the sport right now. The idiots are running the asylum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Imagine hall on a 6.4 avg as thats what I think it drops to at the end of the month! That's less than the likes of Aaron Baseby etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) I applaud the BSPA for blocking this move, there is no way the likes of Hall, at their age and level of experience, should be plying their trade in our NL.Tony Atkin/John Armstrong spring to mind - so they're OK? Edited May 23, 2016 by kitten2502 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I don't really see too much of an issue with this move and suspect that after appeal it will go through. Hall "should" be head and shoulders above anyone in the league however on recent PL showings he isn't cutting it anymore. Ive seen plenty of comments stating Hall would get beaten by the 2nd halfers etc so lets see what he can do. I don't think he will have it all his own way although with the run of home meetings coming up he might be ok. If it was a string of away trips to Rye House & Eastbourne etc it could have been a very entertaining signing....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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