thebaron Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) No Thomas so now assuming.......Josh, Ryan,Carlos,Alex,Zedenek, most lilely Matty as hes an asset, who is the last piece of the jigsaw?, if ive worked averages right we should have just over 6 to play with, so brings in the likes of Mellgren,Klindt,Bellego,Tofty I was thinking we were under 6 but your right assuming we have Zedi = Josh 8.00; Zedi 7.00; Alex 6.26; Carlos 5.33; Ryan 6.68; ANO 3.00 = 36.27 = 6.23. Assuming these are final CMA's. So those on your list would fit; assuming the final CMA's are correct. I reckon Zedi would be good for his average; we spoke to him and Tomas Topinka's mechanic who was with him on Friday. He wants to rider Premier League in 2016; and putting two and two together; his being there on Friday might be a give away. He was riding in the Czech Republic on Sunday so to turn up at Scunny's end of season bash shows admirable commitment from the lad. Rob; also referenced Lynn supremo Buster Chapman; so had me thinking that perhaps there had been contact with Kings Lynn; to whom Zedi is connected. I tell you; add Mellgren to that team for example; and its a fairly strong team team; particularly if our NL rider was Adam Ellis ? Someone said that Ryan might have to qualify for a Visa through a top 4 place in a State Championship !. For gods sake the lads battered from here to kingdom come; hardly rides at all and then gets told he has qualify for a Visa. Ryan surely is a special case how the blazes is he supposed to get his proper average if he is out injured. Some common sense please. Edited October 21, 2015 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Adam Ellis has a PL ave of 4.67 so wont be a No7 option. Re Douglas - has he not ridden his 20 meetings to obtain his average? So no ifs no buts he needs a top 4 state champ finish or he stays at home. Unless of course he already has a multi year visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If you look at the riders eligible to ride at No7, Matt Williamson looks quite a good option. Which riders will actually do a better job then Matt? ok Bradley Wilson-Dean and Zach Wajknecht might do but I am not sure there are any others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 James Shane's, Georgie wood, Conor mountain, Ben hopwood, benji Compton would all do a better job personally don't think scunny suits Matt he never seems to get to grips with how the track is prepared will do someone a good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 No place for theo at scunny then or does he not want to ride for mr godfrey after he got banned to cover for godfreys dodgy sicknote story!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 James Shane's, Georgie wood, Conor mountain, Ben hopwood, benji Compton would all do a better job personally don't think scunny suits Matt he never seems to get to grips with how the track is prepared will do someone a good job I agree Scunny track doesn't suit Matt but I don't think the riders you suggested would do any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Average is to high Lewy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 As long as Rob picks a set of racers , we will be due for top class racing yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If he chooses a set of racers like last season bottom again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Auty Simota Davies Wilkinson Douglas?? Bellego/Palm Toft Williamson wouldn't be bad at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Someone said that Ryan might have to qualify for a Visa through a top 4 place in a State Championship !. For gods sake the lads battered from here to kingdom come; hardly rides at all and then gets told he has qualify for a Visa. Ryan surely is a special case how the blazes is he supposed to get his proper average if he is out injured. Some common sense please. Needing time to fully recover from 2 serious injuries didn't stop the UKVI from giving Ty Proctor 5 days to sort out his affairs and leave the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 As long as Rob picks a set of racers , we will be due for top class racing yet again Shanes at number 7 would be a brilliant way to do that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Adam Ellis has a PL ave of 4.67 so wont be a No7 option. Re Douglas - has he not ridden his 20 meetings to obtain his average? So no ifs no buts he needs a top 4 state champ finish or he stays at home. Unless of course he already has a multi year visa. Ryan; How could he get 20 meetings in; when he was brought off by his team mate at Scunny and suffered a back injury and then broke his leg at Sheffield ? He's got to get fit to make the State Championships in the New Year; when he will not be at full fitness and could miss the cut because of it. That's just plain daft; the lad should have dispensation to return without qualifying through the State route; on the grounds he never had the opportunity to get his 7.00CMA which he would have but for all his rotten luck. We got to argue his case at very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 So Rob looked at Lasse Bjerre and Nicolai Klindt and Matty O is not in his plans,( Workington?)would/could the reserve be someone who has done laps at the ewr? im not clued up on who are the emerging star riders from the nl, id still plump for Bellego though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Auty Simota Davies Wilkinson Douglas?? Bellego/Palm Toft Williamson wouldn't be bad at all Swap you Mellgren for Simota; and we're talking assuming Holoub is out the equation mind. I like Bellego he flys round Scunny. Ryan; How could he get 20 meetings in; when he was brought off by his team mate at Scunny and suffered a back injury and then broke his leg at Sheffield ? He's got to get fit to make the State Championships in the New Year; when he will not be at full fitness and could miss the cut because of it. That's just plain daft; the lad should have dispensation to return without qualifying through the State route; on the grounds he never had the opportunity to get his 7.00CMA which he would have but for all his rotten luck. We got to argue his case at very least. Another point here; if Ryan has to qualify through the State Championship to get a Visa; presumably that's because he has to have a 7.00pt average to get back. Assuming he qualifies through top 4 in his State Champ; what average does he actually come in on in 2016? He is 6.68CMA in the final reckoning which is why he needs a Visa anyway and therefore must come back as 7.00pt rider. Or am I missing something ?; So Ryan's average actually inflates and... he's coming back from serious injury !. Ludicrous. Edited October 22, 2015 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Another point here; if Ryan has to qualify through the State Championship to get a Visa; presumably that's because he has to have a 7.00pt average to get back. Assuming he qualifies through top 4 in his State Champ; what average does he actually come in on in 2016? He is 6.68CMA in the final reckoning which is why he needs a Visa anyway and therefore must come back as 7.00pt rider. Or am I missing something ?; So Ryan's average actually inflates and... he's coming back from serious injury !. Ludicrous. His average is his average and qualifying through a championship has no effect on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Ryan; How could he get 20 meetings in; when he was brought off by his team mate at Scunny and suffered a back injury and then broke his leg at Sheffield ? He's got to get fit to make the State Championships in the New Year; when he will not be at full fitness and could miss the cut because of it. That's just plain daft; the lad should have dispensation to return without qualifying through the State route; on the grounds he never had the opportunity to get his 7.00CMA which he would have but for all his rotten luck. We got to argue his case at very least. If he had averaged 7+ from 10 or so meetings injury may be an argument but even when his season was ended due to injury he was not averaging 7. There are no grounds for an exemption. rubbish happens. His average is his average and qualifying through a championship has no effect on that. TBH thats wrong. He should have to come back on 7. It's how it was until about 2008ish when they threw away all the rules and guidelines for Chris Kerr! Edited October 22, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 TBH thats wrong. He should have to come back on 7. It's how it was until about 2008ish when they threw away all the rules and guidelines for Chris Kerr! I agree, it's wrong in principle, like riders dropping below their assessed figure. The promoters claim to be listening to supporters more but that's something they seem not to want to deal with. I must admit though, I do like to see a good 7 ride ringer at reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) If he had averaged 7+ from 10 or so meetings injury may be an argument but even when his season was ended due to injury he was not averaging 7. There are no grounds for an exemption. rubbish happens. TBH thats wrong. He should have to come back on 7. It's how it was until about 2008ish when they threw away all the rules and guidelines for Chris Kerr! Agree AJ; if he has to comeback via the State route (and believe me I don't think he should have to) but; if he has to; then he surely comes back on a 7.00pt average. As SCB points out; he did not make 7.00 in his official meetings and so that's why he might have to qualify for a Visa. But that does not make it right; its saying that despite serious injury wrecking his season; and ability to reach the required level, he returns as a "better and higher averaged rider"; as he has to be rated 7.00 in 2016; if we are saying he needs a new Visa. Riders who have suffered serious injury; would usually have downward adjustments to averages surely ? You cannot miss nigh on a whole season and be a better rider for it. Edited October 22, 2015 by the outsider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 It's unfortunate but there have to be cut-offs and limits on all sorts of things in life. Sometimes you find yourself on the wrong side of them, you have to work with it and suck it up. TBH, knowing he was unlikely to fit in 20 meeting when he first come over he would have been planning for this all along. If you allow him off now on a 6.8(?) average you have to let someone on 6.7 off next year, then 6.5 and before you know it they're back to letting everyone in again which caused all last winters crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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