Scunthorpe Scorpions 2016?

[Shrimmy]

Lets hope so because if you cant beat the devils at home with the lack of track time our lads have had then you are really crap,i think scunny will have had about 6 more meeting than us. Josh auty impressed me though riding for his el side .

Shall you be visiting on the 24th April..I doubt it because it's bath night before school.

[lewy]

Shall you be visiting on the 24th April..I doubt it because it's bath night before school.

Thats such a witty comment pure genius!

[bruno]

There was a few comments not happy with ash signing with a few even saying he's a white line rider.is that the case in the pl because it certainly isn't when he rides in the nl

[drew2]

I think you will find RS50 was referring to Andre Compton who has an average of 6,61

I never would have guessed!

[Little Nicki]

changes could be made , mid to late may if its proctor .

 

 

On paper that looks a more robust line up; largely because Procter and Compo are seasoned performers on the British scene. It does what it says on the tin; Procter can be a bit hit and miss; when is he back over here ?

 

Ty Proctor tweeted yesterday that he had four weeks before he was able to return to the UK:

 

https://twitter.com/typroctor20/status/720988730589220864

[RS50]

Just noticed, that the provisional home date of 25 July, for the second round of the KO cup has been removed from the fixtures? Anyone know why this is? Are Scunny so confident of defeat in the first round?

[Paul Johnson]

25th is a monday, we dont run on a monday and the saturday and sunday is the pl 4s

[Little Nicki]

Hints of team changes for May given on Sunday. Would the following team meet all regulations.

1 Auty

2 Davies

3 Compton

4 Proctor

5 Douglas

6 Wilkinson

7 Bailey

 

 

changes could be made , mid to late may if its proctor .

 

 

As I have said; I do not like changing; but speedway can force your hand; and sooner than anticipated. I would hate that conversation with the rider (all of whom put themselves on the line each race). It would be harsh on Zeddy due to injury and Andreas who is not even here yet !.

 

On paper that looks a more robust line up; largely because Procter and Compo are seasoned performers on the British scene. It does what it says on the tin; Procter can be a bit hit and miss; when is he back over here ?; but Compo probably just the sort of experienced rider that can nit the team together and lead from the front.

 

So, Andre Compton rode in Christian Henry's Testimonial at Newcastle yesterday and scored three heat wins in his four rides from a Reserve position, and Ty Proctor is now looking at 17th May as the date he leaves Australia. Will either, or neither, be included in any team changes that may happen in a few weeks time, after Holub has ridden the necessary number of matches and his Assessed MA drops from 7.00 to 5.00? Or will a way be found to replace Holub in the line-up?

[RS50]

25th is a monday, we dont run on a monday and the saturday and sunday is the pl 4s

Then why was the date provisionally in the fixtures?

[lucifer sam]

Then why was the date provisionally in the fixtures?

 

RS50, where was this listed? It wasn't in the list I was provided for the Scunny website, and I haven't added or removed anything beyond mid-May.

 

If July 25th (a Monday evening) was included anywhere as a provisional fixture for Scunny, I assume it was an error. It wasn't in our fixture list. It would be useful to know where it was listed, because I can then check that source for other potential errors.

 

All the best

Rob

Edited April 18, 2016 by lucifer sam

[RS50]

 

RS50, where was this listed? It wasn't in the list I was provided for the Scunny website, and I haven't added or removed anything beyond mid-May.

 

If July 25th (a Monday evening) was included anywhere as a provisional fixture for Scunny, I assume it was an error. It wasn't in our fixture list. It would be useful to know where it was listed, because I can then check that source for other potential errors.

 

All the best

Rob

I thought it was on both Scunny and Sheffield's website(I know I wrote this provisional fixture in my diary when fixtures first published). I note Sheffield have a provisional date for Newcastle away, should Newcastle win, and I am sure a provisional date for the fixture at Scunny was listed as I intended to call at Scunny on my was back from a weekend at the east coast, should Scunny get to the second round. I will have got the info from the earliest publication of the fixtures. I have re-checked my diary with Scunny's latest list, and the only other changes I can see is the Glasgow start time, the addition of the British Semi, both of which happened after the original list, and the removal of May 15th as reserved date, presumably as Glasgow have British Semi on that date.

Is there any provisional date to host Sheffield, in the event of them beating Newcastle, or will this be decided after the first round.

[IronScorpion]



As regards Holubs CMA, upto & including last year, he has ridden in 4H & 3A meetings having ridden 28 times & having 25pts giving a CMA of 3.57. If changes are to be made, in the Regulations 16.2.7 it states "Should an Established MA not be achieved in order to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team re-declares". From what i understand, this would then be re-assessed at 5.00 as you cannot go below(unless that is from 2017).

 

Trying to follow Regulations & sub-regs is difficult so trying to explain to newbies is a nightmare. Who would want to be a Manager! Mr Courtney is still learning & he is an ex rider!

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

That part of the regs has been available for a number of years and to date I dont think the MC has issued a revised average at that May 1st cut off where a team has redclared EVER even though it could.

Why should this time be any different?

[allthegearbutnaeidea]



As regards Holubs CMA, upto & including last year, he has ridden in 4H & 3A meetings having ridden 28 times & having 25pts giving a CMA of 3.57. If changes are to be made, in the Regulations 16.2.7 it states "Should an Established MA not be achieved in order to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team re-declares". From what i understand, this would then be re-assessed at 5.00 as you cannot go below(unless that is from 2017).

 

Trying to follow Regulations & sub-regs is difficult so trying to explain to newbies is a nightmare. Who would want to be a Manager! Mr Courtney is still learning & he is an ex rider!

Mr Courtney isn't still learning thank you very much, he just went with his gut to try and get the heat advantage in heat 12 and let glasgow have the 5-1 in 14, the gamble didn't pay off but he certainly knows the rules

[New era Panthers]

Mr Courtney isn't still learning thank you very much, he just went with his gut to try and get the heat advantage in heat 12 and let glasgow have the 5-1 in 14, the gamble didn't pay off but he certainly knows the rules

Is that so , you could have fooled a lot of people on that suggestion.

[lucifer sam]

I thought it was on both Scunny and Sheffield's website(I know I wrote this provisional fixture in my diary when fixtures first published). I note Sheffield have a provisional date for Newcastle away, should Newcastle win, and I am sure a provisional date for the fixture at Scunny was listed as I intended to call at Scunny on my was back from a weekend at the east coast, should Scunny get to the second round. I will have got the info from the earliest publication of the fixtures. I have re-checked my diary with Scunny's latest list, and the only other changes I can see is the Glasgow start time, the addition of the British Semi, both of which happened after the original list, and the removal of May 15th as reserved date, presumably as Glasgow have British Semi on that date.

Is there any provisional date to host Sheffield, in the event of them beating Newcastle, or will this be decided after the first round.

 

RS50, thanks for the reply.

 

The other change that I recall making is the start-time to the Peterborough on the Spring Bank Holiday (May 30th) from 3pm to 2pm, but that was done very early indeed, maybe before I even added the fixtures to the website.

 

It may have been on other websites, but my original list of fixtures never had a Scunthorpe home date for the second round of the KOC. I will check to see if there is a provisional date for this and will let you know, because I appreciate that people like to forward plan fixtures (I tend to have hundreds of potential fixtures scribbled into my own diary).

 

( EDIT: Just found how the fixtures stood on January 21st, when first added to website: http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=4677 )

 

All the best

Rob

Edited April 18, 2016 by lucifer sam

[Cupidstunt]

Think you will see Andre riding further North than Scunny, but think Scunny would be a better option for him always seems to ride well there

[RS50]

 

RS50, thanks for the reply.

 

The other change that I recall making is the start-time to the Peterborough on the Spring Bank Holiday (May 30th) from 3pm to 2pm, but that was done very early indeed, maybe before I even added the fixtures to the website.

 

It may have been on other websites, but my original list of fixtures never had a Scunthorpe home date for the second round of the KOC. I will check to see if there is a provisional date for this and will let you know, because I appreciate that people like to forward plan fixtures (I tend to have hundreds of potential fixtures scribbled into my own diary).

 

( EDIT: Just found how the fixtures stood on January 21st, when first added to website: http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=4677 )

 

All the best

Rob

Thanks for the reply.If it was never on Scunny's fixtures I apologise I probably got the relevant fixture from the Sheffield website. Would have checked that before Scunny's as Sheffield is my home town. Did not think to double check for inconsistencies. Two fixtures I thought seemed unusual at the time, Sheffield's potential away fixture 25 July v Scunny, and the fact that we still have a provisional fixture on Sunday 15th May (seems even more unusual now Glasgow are staging British semi on that date.

Is there a provisional date for this match, or are Scunny awaiting to see if they beat Newcastle first?

[Alan_Jones]

RS50, where was this listed? It wasn't in the list I was provided for the Scunny website, and I haven't added or removed anything beyond mid-May.

 

If July 25th (a Monday evening) was included anywhere as a provisional fixture for Scunny, I assume it was an error. It wasn't in our fixture list. It would be useful to know where it was listed, because I can then check that source for other potential errors.

 

The original BSPA fixture list had:

 

July 24 Scunthorpe : Reserved

July 25 Scunthorpe v Sheffield KOC

[Little Nicki]



As regards Holubs CMA, upto & including last year, he has ridden in 4H & 3A meetings having ridden 28 times & having 25pts giving a CMA of 3.57. If changes are to be made, in the Regulations 16.2.7 it states "Should an Established MA not be achieved in order to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team re-declares". From what i understand, this would then be re-assessed at 5.00 as you cannot go below(unless that is from 2017).

 

Trying to follow Regulations & sub-regs is difficult so trying to explain to newbies is a nightmare. Who would want to be a Manager! Mr Courtney is still learning & he is an ex rider!

 

Does this include Scorps PLC fixture at Peterborough when Holub was injured in his first ride, Iron? (Is that what is termed as a 'Frustrated' Ride). And, if it does, is it correct to include it? I have no idea, by the way. Think you are right too, when you say that Holub's MA cannot go below an Assessed 5.00 this season. And a PL rider on an Assessed MA cannot be removed from a Team declaration.