HenryW Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 That photo's a bit of a blast from the past isn't it? lol http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/564536/oficjalnie-przemyslaw-pawlicki-w-stali-gorzow Don't be surprised if Baby PP heads over to Gorzow...nothing certain like, but PP1 & PP2 were always marketed as a package in the past, so where one goes the other may well follow. Now, PP2 + BZ wouldn't be a bad reserve pairing would they? Is Piotr Pawlicki not too old for the reserve berth now? I thought he already turned 21 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Is Piotr Pawlicki not too old for the reserve berth now? I thought he already turned 21 this year. That is correct. Next year Piotr Pawlicki will be 22 and Bartosz Zmarzlik will be doing his last season as U21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 That is correct. Next year Piotr Pawlicki will be 22 and Bartosz Zmarzlik will be doing his last season as U21. Fair enough, I stand corrected then...I wonder then who Stal will keep as a "squad rider"? Gapinski again? Or will they go without? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted December 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Marek Cieslak is the new coach/manager at Zielona Gora having been with them previously- in 2011 they won the league under his leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 How much can a top flight and middle tier rider expect to earn in Poland ? Anyone know please. Przemyslaw Terminski http://www.fst.torun.pl/en/node/19 owner of the Polish FST insurers broker company, and the owner of KS Torun speedway club, has recently revealed in an interview with the Polish daily sport newspaper „Przeglad Sportowy” his thoughts on financing Polish speedway, and in particular his own club. In his opinion Polish EkstraLiga clubs, in order to keep alive, need to cut wages of their riders by at least 30%. Generally speaking, it would be best if clubs paid for a signature on a contract no more than £25K (or 150K PLN), and for a point around £650 (or 4K PLN). Otherwise, without additional sponsorship clubs would have to seek extra money in fans’ pockets. The ticket would have to cost a hundred PLN . Currently the average ticket price in Torun is 19 PLN and people already complain that it is too expensive. What would they say if it was a hundred PLN? Terminski’s season budget for Torun comes to around £1'500 000.00 . Is this a viable calculation? He thinks so, but it can always be higher of course. Some say that it will be, if his team advances to the play-offs . He denies this idea. In four play-off matches one has to pay riders around £167K (or one million PLN net) because the average pay to riders, per meeting, is 250,000 PLN. As far as the revenue from the final is concerned, it can be estimated at around £100K, or 600 thousand PLN. In short, he doesn't believe that the play-offs bring any extra money. Can Polish EkstraLiga afford riders earning around £ 167K (or one million PLN), and perhaps even more ? The Torun's owner reckons that he can afford to pay riders up to the above mentioned amount. Above that it simply would be a fad. Besides, £167K for the world class rider, is really a super dosh. How much can any rider spend on preparations for the season? Hancock has 50 bikes and why would he need 51or 52. OK, he needs to do some tuning. From time to time he most likely will replace engines, so £25K – 33K (or150-200K PLN) as the annual equipment cost for somebody like him is adequate. What about the cost of keeping his team? Any top rider employs two mechanics. Each of them are paid around € 2,000 a month. For the season it will come to another £33.5K (or 200 thousand PLN). Around £16.5K (or 100,000. PLN) can be added for fares, flights and other expenses. Therefore a grand total comes to around £83.5K, or five hundred thousand PLN. The other half of £167k stays in the rider's pocket. Of course, the top riders in our team are currently getting more. Half a million PLN (in hand) are getting those which you call the 2nd string. But in Mr Terminski’s opinion, there are still those riders who in one season want to earn more than he would in a lifetime. Could the cost of running Polish Ekstraliga club be reduced if the transfer period would last – say – only two weeks? Mr Terlinski does not think so. What is needed in his opinion, is to be firm and neutral, and above else not paying more than one has to. By his own admission, he does what he preaches. Besides, he says - people need to be aware that speedway cannot afford certain things . It is a sport supported by the proverbial barbers, shopkeepers and small businesses like his own. This is not basketball, where the Nike company is able to pay a player $ one million for the fact that he plays in their shoes. In Polish speedway - he said - we have a really great television deal, but ultimately how does 8.5 million PLN compare with 140 million that our football gets.? Please do have a look at Dubai, where the FormulaOne gets 150 million euros. But that sport is watched live by 300,000 and by a half billion on television. Speedway does not have that kind of money , so we must keep our outgoings down - he said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Prem Pawlicki has left Leszno and joined Gorzow. Brother Piotr has also left Leszno to join an unknown club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 "Hancock has 50 bikes" Thats surely tongue in cheek... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 "Hancock has 50 bikes" Thats surely tongue in cheek... I read it as an exaggeration, but his point being Hancock already has a load of bikes so it's not like he has to go out and buy all new bikes in March for the new season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I read it as an exaggeration, but his point being Hancock already has a load of bikes so it's not like he has to go out and buy all new bikes in March for the new season. Yes... On the other hand, does any top rider too that at the moment? All new gear when the season starts in March? Meaning dozen or so engines and 5-8 rolling chassis's... I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 ONE SGP rider last season had 14 complete bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) ONE SGP rider last season had 14 complete bikes To my knowledge most have a set (3-4, guessing, I admit) in the UK and then there's a "GP set/garage" on the continent somewhere. That would be another 4-6 + spares and they are used for SE, PL and GP. 14 sounds a lot of bikes... How did he do? EDIT: And to explain myself a little, in s sport where "number one bike" is THE ONE most want to ride, 14 number one's just cant work. Edited December 7, 2015 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 To my knowledge most have a set (3-4, guessing, I admit) in the UK and then there's a "GP set/garage" on the continent somewhere. That would be another 4-6 + spares and they are used for SE, PL and GP. 14 sounds a lot of bikes... How did he do? EDIT: And to explain myself a little, in s sport where "number one bike" is THE ONE most want to ride, 14 number one's just cant work. Kasprzak bought a couple of engines last season, didnt help him at all. Read something about lil'Pawlicki that he got in trouble with the law? Anybody has info on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Kasprzak bought a couple of engines last season, didnt help him at all. Read something about lil'Pawlicki that he got in trouble with the law? Anybody has info on that? http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/564998/piotr-pawlicki-ma-problemy-z-soba-i-prawem Appears that he does. Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Doesn't say much does it!!? Its probably only something that lads of his age get up to!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenit Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) So many smashing news from polska today, any confirmed ones?? Jonsson, Laguta - Rybnik Kildemand - Leszno but in contact with Stal (which one?) ?? Piotr Pawlicki - Falubaz ? Hancock - almost falubaz ? Mikkelsen - Tarnow, good move for him if it is true, but can be clearly seen that Tarnow is in big financial crisris and they don't have any expectations, or am I wrong? I hope so. And don't know what else. shiet. Edited December 8, 2015 by Zenit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Zenit, Greg H will likely ride for Torun from what I have read. Edited December 8, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Doesn't say much does it!!? Its probably only something that lads of his age get up to!!!!!! Allowing for the fact that Google Translate isn't the most reliable source it looks like he set off a flare after a play-off meeting which is a serious offence over there to do so in a public stadium without authority. It can carry up to five years imprisonment. Before we get the comments about that being wrong and over the top the Poles have their own laws and it's their own business. Anyway it may well be a mistranslation. I do hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenit Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Is Doyle linked with any club, haven't heard any news about him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Allowing for the fact that Google Translate isn't the most reliable source it looks like he set off a flare after a play-off meeting which is a serious offence over there to do so in a public stadium without authority. I t can carry up to five years imprisonment. Before we get the comments about that being wrong and over the top the Poles have their own laws and it's their own business. Anyway it may well be a mistranslation. I do hope so. According to a new article on Sfy (if translation is somewhat correct), the legal matters is also that he is accused of beating and causing injury on someone. The second procedure is already the District Court in Leszno. It concerns the beating and causing injury. - We proceedings having light flares during the final match Ekstraligi. Earlier, we conducted the action on the beat.Here in June handed over the case to court in Leszno, along with an indictment - said the regional prosecutor Michael Smętkowski. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsportowefakty.wp.pl%2Fzuzel%2F565680%2Fdwa-postepowania-przeciwko-piotrowi-pawlickiemu&edit-text= Edited December 9, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jonsson to Rybnik is confirmed. http://norrteljetidning.se/sport/1.3348254-forandringarnas-tid-for-andreas-jonsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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