Mr Blobby Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Clegg's final GSA is published as 3.48. If the reduction is still 2.5%, that reduces it to 3.39. Knew i would of been wrong. to late to be trying to do maths. Edited October 20, 2015 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I thought you meant back to three regardless if it is only 2.5 then sarge moves up and max stays at 6...going by what ive just posted. By being able to sign one on 3 and 4.5 means british riders like richard hall still get a spot over konopka and others. Edited October 20, 2015 by baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surely the protected heat 4 just means the number 6 can't replace the number 7 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surely the protected heat 4 just means the number 6 can't replace the number 7 ? But what if number 7 goes through the tapes or misses 2 minutes...... Hence why has to be 6 and 7 again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 But what if number 7 goes through the tapes or misses 2 minutes...... Hence why has to be 6 and 7 again Then he'd be excluded and it'd be 3 riders only?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 But what if number 7 goes through the tapes or misses 2 minutes...... Hence why has to be 6 and 7 again Sarjeant won't be at number 7 though In that case, it would just be 15m handicap, or exclusion, one assumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Sarjeant won't be at number 7 though In that case, it would just be 15m handicap, or exclusion, one assumes. True, we will find out in March probably anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 True, we will find out in March probably anyway. Might even wait til April if nobody breaks the tapes til then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Might even wait til April if nobody breaks the tapes til then! I'm sure Sarj will break them in febuary.lol Junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I rule id like to see added is a mandatory track reserve or number 8. If the draft rider gets excluded then the number 8 can take his place. After the meeting ends the draft riders from each side and number 8's have a 2 heat race contest for a bonus point which adds on to match score so a 3 point home win would then be a 4 point win or away win by more than 6 with the bonus heat win is a 5 point win. This could add a bit of meaning to their track time. During the meeting the number 8 must spanner for the draft reserve and inbetween work with captains of clubs pit crew to gain experience and learn the trade. Edited October 20, 2015 by baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Regarding it being a "3 pointer", some people mean average of 3.00 to 3.99 for "3 pointer", short for "3 point XX". The BSPA PR did say NL eligible riders which is anyone under 4 so I'd assumed (haha!) that Clegg and other 3 to 3.99 Brits would be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Regarding it being a "3 pointer", some people mean average of 3.00 to 3.99 for "3 pointer", short for "3 point XX". The BSPA PR did say NL eligible riders which is anyone under 4 so I'd assumed (haha!) that Clegg and other 3 to 3.99 Brits would be included. An NL eligible rider could also be a British rider without a PL spot... Don't you just love the BSPA's vagueness?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 It is only riders who haven't attained a PL average greater than 3.00, Clegg etc are not included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 So the likes of Olly Greenwood, who has had an average over three is ineligible for a number seven spot too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 So the likes of Olly Greenwood, who has had an average over three is ineligible for a number seven spot too? Oliver Greenwood is on a 3.00 according to the latest issued averages so would be eligible http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/pl15_issue_35.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Oliver Greenwood is on a 3.00 according to the latest issued averages so would be eligible http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/pl15_issue_35.pdf He has previously had an average of over 3.00 though, which is the point, I think, Ben was making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrace Grumbler Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Is it not the complete opposite of a short term solution? Is it not the ideal solution in that it should, in theory, help create a larger churn of British riders in this country who want to race and stay in this country rather than travelling around the world for open meetings, thus missing meetings which leads to R/R. guests and disrupted race calendars (the things that seem to irk a lot of fans). In theory, yes, but I just doubt that it will bring on many more PL quality riders. To state the blindingly obvious (sorry!) it seems to me that a young (in this case, British) rider needs first a liking for the sport, second determination to get on and third talent. I can't see there is much stopping British riders who fulfil all three requirements from getting to the top, or at least to a place in a PL team's 1-5 (which is a long way from the top, but I'm sure you see what I mean) - at different levels, e.g. Tai W, Jason Garrity. What this new system may produce is riders who love the sport and are determined/resilient, but don't have the natural ability to kick on. I could name some, but I don't think it is necessary - we can all think of examples, I'm sure. This looks like a cost cutting measure to me. If we have to cut our cloth, then fine - but aren't there better ways to do it than this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 It is only riders who haven't attained a PL average greater than 3.00, Clegg etc are not included Which strikes me as barmy. It the Roses and Cleggs who need the help, this will only hold them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 He has previously had an average of over 3.00 though, which is the point, I think, Ben was making Ok I see, as I understand it will be a clean slate so to speak with the end of season averages being used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 The fact that no one on here can fathom it; tells you all you need to know. And don't ask me because I am clueless on who's eligible and who is not. I reckon they are as well. If this is all we have to talk about post AGM; we are in big trouble. Seems this 3pt rider is the only thing that's come of this AGM and it actually waters down the racing quality in my view. If the likes of Adam Ellis is a 3pt rider; then who ever gets him will win the league; because he's that much ahead of his contemporaries in the NL. What about Bradley Wilson-Dean ? what is his PL average; suppose they will tell you he's a 7pt rider. Crackers; when all we want to see is the best riders on track. I don't give a monkeys if another track has seven 10pt riders and Scunny have two 8's and five 6's I just want to see the best racing. Averages are anti-speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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