Paul Johnson Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) i like the idea of making it cheaper for away fans,say a tenner? encourages a bigger crowd, id be tempted to go to more away meetings as it could be as a "day out", Edited October 14, 2015 by neck brace tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) The fixtures list and structure of fixtures would be my priority, stadiums shouldn’t be sitting empty during the summer months. It typically leads to clubs having to run fixtures when people have lost interest in the season. The League Cup in particular needs looked at IMO. It could probably be scrapped with the fixtures merged into the league to compensate clubs for the lack of local meetings and also allows clubs the chance to sell a marketable season ticket and riders for the reduced contracts. It would also help with the rearranging of fixtures and promotion as in theory it means you are running a meaningful league meeting come September rather than a meeting in a competition you were eliminated from/qualified from months ago. Clubs might grumble at the lack of a chance at a Final, but surely the counter to that would be, make money from a Final and lose money running dead rubbers to a less than average crowd. Begin the PL campaign with a front loaded regional fixture list, and end it the same way. If at all possible merge as many tours as possible into the fixture list, in theory an ideal fixture list would look something like..Rye v Ipswich, Peterborough, Somerset to start ….Northern team tours in the summer and then end at home v Ipswich, Peterborough and Somerset. Away from home reverse it with weekend trips to Edinburgh, Berwick and Glasgow in the middle, and again “Up North to Sheffield, Workington and Newcastle.... I appreciate this in it's self creates the logistical stadium issue as that in theory means 2 Saturday nights Rye aren't running at home etc and so on. Who knows, add the points from the early season regional fixtures and the side who gains the most “regional points” from the typical Premier Trophy group are the side that goes on to represent the region at the 4s. If it means prearranged fixtures rather than computer generated etc so be it, make it as friendly as possible to clubs and fans. Who knows, overtime you could build it so that the fixture pattern remains the same every season like La Liga in Spain, so that a Somerset fan can say meeting number 12 away from home means we are at Workington so I can plan around that, and plan to attend that meeting. I also feel the lack of an additional final would add to spectacle of the Play Offs and KOC. The season ending with 3 Finals in the space of a month sort of takes the shine of IMO. I appreciate like most things, this is probably easier said than done but I do feel there are minor fixes which could/can make differences without having to cost a lot of money, this might be one. Edited October 14, 2015 by sparkafag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Strange, didn't think there was a Harkness anyway so you've got your wish already!!! strange after 6 years in charge you still cant spell his name right lol I don't think its cast in stone he is standing down. personally I think he is the best man for the job, he is speedway threw and threw just for the record its HARKESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 strange after 6 years in charge you still cant spell his name right lol I don't think its cast in stone he is standing down. personally I think he is the best man for the job, he is speedway threw and threw just for the record its HARKESS Just for another record-------It's through and through. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Does it really matter if the blokes name is Arthur or Martha? Reserve draft, two young/inexperienced British riders at reserve all season. No change to heat format needed. Points limit of 35-36 for 1-5. At least one British rider in each team's 1-5 at all times. Doubling up for British riders only. Foreign riders averages never go lower than their assessed figure only upwards once they surpass that starting average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 AGM; we always go into to it hoping for something to improve things and help speedway forward. Invariably the outcome is disappointing as we see it as fans and promoters see it first and foremost as a business. Without knowing all the financials and the many in's and out's; for example the availability of riders to man teams then its like sending your letter to Santa as kid hoping against hope for Action Man and ending up with his cheaper stable mate Tommy Gun - excuse the pun. But here's some of the things I would ask Santa for (Rob you do the big jolly fella with the beard) 1. Speedway at Scunthorpe in 2016 would be a start for me. 2. Merge the Leagues; the Elite masquerades as an Elite competition when it is really a rerun of the Premier. 3. Split the League geographically North/West and South/East Conferences - reduces travel and costs for everyone. 4. Launch British Speedway 2016 at the New Belle Vue; all teams represented. 5. 7 Rider teams with 9 man squads; including a Marquee Rider and 2 British Juniors at 8&9 for all teams. 6. The Marquee Rider; centrally contracted with the BSPA and allocated as the No1 and promotions/poster rider at the club. 7. Scrap Averages and Grade riders so that we are not splitting hairs over 0.01pt to include a rider. Get riders out there ! 8 20 Heat meetings may include 15 Heat Team match + 5 Heat 2nd Half or 20 Heat Individual Meeting or 3 team/4 team event. 8. Consider opening the season with 3 teams in a meeting; call it the Spring Cup; local opposition; more fans attending at tracks. 9. Give concessions on the gate to fans who travel to away meetings. 10. Bring back the Golden Helmet match race for No1 riders. Holder defends at next meeting and so on. 11. Each track to stage an Individual Championship Meeting. 12. Regionalised League (as in 3.) but National Knock Out Cup Competition all teams in the hat; two legs. 13. Keep Play-Offs; top 4 from each Conference into Play-Off Qtr-Final; Semi-Final-Final. Grand Finale at Belle Vue. 14. Concrete start grids; so no gardening and no advantage off any gate. 15. All meetings to be filmed; officially to allow for racing incidents to be viewed again if necessary; fairly and consistently. 16. Take all the annoying anomalies out of the rule book; too many to list here. But make it simple; less red tape more racing. 17. As in the Grand Prix add the Helmet Colour to the back of the team race jacket. 18. Team race suits to be mandatory to present a uniform image at each club. 19. Sharpen up centre green presentations (not a problem at the EWR by the way); but make the presentation more professional. 20. Keep meetings moving where ever possible; think along the lines of the GP's; successive race be ready to roll. 21. GUESTS! of course; this is the one. If we merge the Leagues we can tidy up the guesting farce. With two Regional Conferences; a rider in the N/W can only guest in the S/E. Simple and very effective. That's just twenty one! off top of my head; sure there is much more. But realistically I am not holding my breath on anything radical. phew, 21 ammendments in 1 weekend, its not going to happen. be lucky if there is 3/4 ... threw and threw .. HARKESS, that's not his real name, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 i like the idea of making it cheaper for away fans,say a tenner? encourages a bigger crowd, id be tempted to go to more away meetings as it could be as a "day out", But how do you stop home fans from claiming to be away fans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 most supporters who go to speedway wear their teams colours etc so i couldnt see a sheffield fan trying to get in for a tenner wearing a scorpions top. not every one has a season ticket so maybe have a membership card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Rides Again Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 What date is the AGM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 What date is the AGM ? This weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Tickets for away meetings sold online and to be collected from your own track shop at a meeting before the away meeting they are for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Tickets for away meetings sold online and to be collected from your own track shop at a meeting before the away meeting they are for. not good for spur of the moment fans . me i would go for the away teams colours. i have loads of different scarfs . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Tickets for away meetings sold online and to be collected from your own track shop at a meeting before the away meeting they are for. What if the meeting before is rained off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 most supporters who go to speedway wear their teams colours etc so i couldnt see a sheffield fan trying to get in for a tenner wearing a scorpions top. not every one has a season ticket so maybe have a membership card? Not everyone wears their teams colours, some are casual,,, what would happen at say, Glasgow V Redcar ??? not good for spur of the moment fans . me i would go for the away teams colours. i have loads of different scarfs . and loads of different hats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 What if the meeting before is rained off? Could always just pick them up from the away track before the meeting with proof of id. If all tracks offered in advance prices for all fans then they'd probably see more people through the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 What about 'nuetrals', that just go for the racing ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 we are not memtioning neutrals as they wont be away fans,as i said before some form of membership card, most clubs have them or season tickets so you could show that, scunny have neither so maybe introduce a membership card? also some clubs have a couple of turnstiles open, use one for away fans,, dedicated fans who go to all meetings home and way show the teams colours, if you were a home fan and used the away gate to save money then youre not really a fan as youre robbing the club, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Well this post has got quite a few ideas from various fans up and down the country . Have been bouncing around on a few of the EL pages on here and every now and then thou from what i can take its just rumors people are talking about a combined EL+PL . Ok its all just rumors and fans talking between themselves on here but would people be interested in this . Some are saying one big league and others have mentioned a NORTH / SOUTH split . If this idea is the way to save speedway in the long run maybe its the way to go ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Well this post has got quite a few ideas from various fans up and down the country . Have been bouncing around on a few of the EL pages on here and every now and then thou from what i can take its just rumors people are talking about a combined EL+PL . Ok its all just rumors and fans talking between themselves on here but would people be interested in this . Some are saying one big league and others have mentioned a NORTH / SOUTH split . If this idea is the way to save speedway in the long run maybe its the way to go ? the north south split is totally unnessessary as its not really travel costs that is the problem plus it would be really boring - one big league at pl level for me might lose some big names but such is life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 the north south split is totally unnessessary as its not really travel costs that is the problem plus it would be really boring - one big league at pl level for me might lose some big names but such is life It's also worth mentioning that some riders may be based in the north, but ride for a southern side, or vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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