Najjer Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 If this was any other year, I'd totally agree, but they will be up against 14 other riders in the same boat, in fact probably more where teams have gone for two riders moving up from the NL, so to a degree their passage into the PL has been eased slightly in comparison to other years. So having a rider who has previously done well in the recent NL averages should give their teams an advantage, especially if they have regularly beaten those who will riding for the other 14 teams. We know that often confidence plays a big part in a riders form, so having the knowledge that you can beat your opponents more often than not will surely help some of the more talented riders kick on in the PL Very true - but if as expected it is Wilson Dean as the 'senior' reserve then he needs to at least hit assessed average and alot more for us to have a decent team in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Personally I think Branford and Wilson dean were outclassed by Ellis but better than the rest in the nl 2015. However in brads case I think he will do well to attain about 4.5 average which is Obv a drop on the starting figure. Fair play to any side for having the balls to give him a go on a 5, he's a real trier mind Zach w isn't far behind him and starts 2 points less, I think he will push his up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 BWD is heading oop north with a good deal, I hope he can cut it in the PL, he's a nice kid, still rate Ellis above him any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupidstunt Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Wilson-Dean will have a reality check in the PL, its a massive step up from a weak NL, he will do ok but i don't expect him to get anywhere near a 5.00 average, look at Adam Ellis he hasn't achieved a 5.00 average in 2 years of trying in the PL, then there is riders like Ashley Morris and Stefan Nielsen who again can't achieve a 5.00 average in the PL and in my opinion are better riders than Wilson-Dean. Same can be said for Jake Allen if as rumoured he is going to Somerset, 2 very big gambles but if they aren't cutting it Garry May will just get rid like usual 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Warrior Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 thats some stretch of the interpretation! If it is true I hope its a genuine adjustment in the regs rather than that option! It was just an idea and as a Rebel fan myself I think it would be cheeky but at the same time makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Excuse me if I have missed something, be warned it happens regularly when you get to my age but why have we discounted Ollie Greenwood at reserve ???? As far as I am concerned I think the lad has unfinished work with us and I think he should be able to carry on and realise his potential. If I have missed something that prevents this please accept my apologies and please furnish me with the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Wilson-Dean will have a reality check in the PL, its a massive step up from a weak NL, he will do ok but i don't expect him to get anywhere near a 5.00 average, look at Adam Ellis he hasn't achieved a 5.00 average in 2 years of trying in the PL, then there is riders like Ashley Morris and Stefan Nielsen who again can't achieve a 5.00 average in the PL and in my opinion are better riders than Wilson-Dean. Same can be said for Jake Allen if as rumoured he is going to Somerset, 2 very big gambles but if they aren't cutting it Garry May will just get rid like usual To be fair I think Adam first started in the PL when he was 16, he concentrated on the NL last year and did well in the U21's, I think he's gonna suprise a few people this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Oh well ! The waiting is nearly over ! 7.30PM Tonight, Oaktree or on here not long after !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Anyone expecting young Adam Ellis to figure in the team ? He must be fixed up somewhere i would imagine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Excuse me if I have missed something, be warned it happens regularly when you get to my age but why have we discounted Ollie Greenwood at reserve ???? As far as I am concerned I think the lad has unfinished work with us and I think he should be able to carry on and realise his potential. If I have missed something that prevents this please accept my apologies and please furnish me with the details. Because he isn't as good as Zak Wajhisface, and doesn't have the potential to be. Edited December 7, 2015 by Najjer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Warrior Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 In fairness of BWD he should be starting on a 3.00. He stormed the national in his ever season here. I think he has way more potential than Ellis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) That's the issue with BWD - being saddled with a 5pt average. Anyone signing him would have to be taking a long term view, that he will be integral to your team for a number of seasons. You are in theory giving away 2 points at the start of the season to all your competitors as all other NL riders are on a 3 point average. Aspegren on the other hand is sub 5 and on his visits last season with Rye scored paid 8 from 4 (including a fall) and paid 16 from 7. Depends if you want a short or long term view- naturally assuming either of those two are in the final 1-7! Edited December 7, 2015 by Always a RACER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I just don't see Somerset signing BWD. He won't get his average unless he has a brilliant season and Somerset don't sign riders like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I just don't see Somerset signing BWD. He won't get his average unless he has a brilliant season and Somerset don't sign riders like that. Agreed. I can see Ollie Greenwood @ 6 with Zac Waj @ 7. Would give a decent reserve pairing with loads of points left over for the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Adam Ellis and Zak Watshisname is my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupidstunt Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 In fairness of BWD he should be starting on a 3.00. He stormed the national in his ever season here. I think he has way more potential than Ellis. why should he be on a 3.00, he is from NZ and has not got a british passport, he shouldn't have been allowed to ride in the NL to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 why should he be on a 3.00, he is from NZ and has not got a british passport, he shouldn't have been allowed to ride in the NL to start with He doesn't need a UK passport to be allowed to ride NL.............. 19.9.2.5 All Riders must hold a UK Passport or have UK Partiality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 He doesn't need a UK passport to be allowed to ride NL.............. 19.9.2.5 All Riders must hold a UK Passport or have UK Partiality. Exactly. He was legal to ride NL last year and ALL NL riders step up to the PL on a 3.00. This year is a different story as you need a British passport to ride NL, but BWD already has done so it just stops him in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroundtheboards Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Because he isn't as good as Zak Wajhisface, and doesn't have the potential to be. Thanks for that !!! You couldn't make it more blunt !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 BWD is heading oop north with a good deal, I hope he can cut it in the PL, he's a nice kid, still rate Ellis above him any day Ellis been around longer than Brad.... So Brad still can improve more than ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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