Cliffeboy Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Charles Wright is our asset, so we would get priority if there was a clash of dates anyway. I think this is pretty much on the money to be honest - although it'll be surprising not to see Kyle Howarth in the side. If Josh and Rohan can score heavily in most matches this is a top 6 side again. Reserves probably strongest in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) does jake allen not need a top four finish or has he got it already . berwick and rye have the best reserves as i see it . then there's scunthorpe, peterborrow .and any just about any other team ,inc workington . Edited December 5, 2015 by jenga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coomie Posted December 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Charles Wright is our asset, so we would get priority if there was a clash of dates anyway. I think this is pretty much on the money to be honest - although it'll be surprising not to see Kyle Howarth in the side. this is the side I would like to see next year,I would like Pontus back to aswell but can't fit I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Sure Jake had a visa in place think it was the 7-00 average that changed Berwicks team line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) I dont think it will be allowed to go any lower either he must stay on 5 or higher for the season,but i,m not sure? so even when he does the requires number of meeting to gain an average , he will still be on a 5.00 average . just what rules are you implementing there then . the bullshot rules ? so if mason gets an eight point average , he still stays on the same 5.0 average . yea , right o . i take it thats one from sumersets own rule book . Edited December 5, 2015 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Reserves probably strongest in the league. Second strongest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakekx Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think Jake Allen already ok for visa 2nd state title 2014 plus new rider should be a 5 pt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Talking about Nielsen and Morley Shads, Neilsen maybe , Morley no , if these are the Rebs pair, combined I think they will be the best. Have a good Christmas mate, see you in March hopefully . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Talking about Nielsen and Morley Shads, Neilsen maybe , Morley no , if these are the Rebs pair, combined I think they will be the best. Have a good Christmas mate, see you in March hopefully . You've got the wrong rider Cliff - Rye's reserve pairing is Lykke and Morley. Nielsen is yet to sign for anybody as far as I'm aware. IF that is to be our reserve pairing, it's very hard to judge. I'd like to think we would potentially have the best 3 pointer in the league but to a certain extent remains an unknown, especially at this level. Wilson-Dean was one of the top riders in the NL but I've never seen him ride and don't really know much about him at all - so again, hard to make an assumption on him also. Do we think he would be a better option to Aspegren? I'm not sure. Edited December 6, 2015 by Najjer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Isn't it Kasper Lykke Neilsen ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I think Holder will be at Plymouth as they can't get anyone else at 1 with a higher average than his!Wrong again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Isn't it Kasper Lykke Neilsen ?It is indeed, technically you were not wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 You've got the wrong rider Cliff - Rye's reserve pairing is Lykke and Morley. Nielsen is yet to sign for anybody as far as I'm aware. IF that is to be our reserve pairing, it's very hard to judge. I'd like to think we would potentially have the best 3 pointer in the league but to a certain extent remains an unknown, especially at this level. Wilson-Dean was one of the top riders in the NL but I've never seen him ride and don't really know much about him at all - so again, hard to make an assumption on him also. Do we think he would be a better option to Aspegren? I'm not sure. The good and knowledgable people of Eastbourne and Brum rate them very highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Isn't it Kasper Lykke Neilsen ? Apologies Cliff - I assumed you meant Nielsen of the Stefan variety, as I often refer Kasper Lykke Nielsen to just Kasper Lykke. The good and knowledgable people of Eastbourne and Brum rate them very highly. So I'm told - but it's one thing doing it in the NL and it's completely different doing it in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 So I'm told - but it's one thing doing it in the NL and it's completely different doing it in the PL. If this was any other year, I'd totally agree, but they will be up against 14 other riders in the same boat, in fact probably more where teams have gone for two riders moving up from the NL, so to a degree their passage into the PL has been eased slightly in comparison to other years. So having a rider who has previously done well in the recent NL averages should give their teams an advantage, especially if they have regularly beaten those who will riding for the other 14 teams. We know that often confidence plays a big part in a riders form, so having the knowledge that you can beat your opponents more often than not will surely help some of the more talented riders kick on in the PL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I believe any new riders to pl come in on a 5 ave providing they have a top four finish in a state championship if they already have a pl ave i,e proctor over 5 they start on existing ave but I am 99% certain jake will be a 5 wheres nujjer hes the expert on the criteria for visas:-o 18.6.1 Riders new to Premier League racing are categorised as follows: Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish Ekstraliga or the Swedish Elitserien of above 6.00 points and a Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship Cat 2: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other Riders riding currently in any Professional Speedway League, Cat 3a: Riders not riding in a Professional Speedway League Cat 3b: Commonwealth or USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British Speedway Cat 4: Riders who have ridden in the National Development League as an Amateur 18.6.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the PL racing is: Cat 1 8.00 Cat 2 7.00 Cat 3a 5.00 Cat 3b 7.00 Cat 4 3.00 So which part if the 2015 rule is changing?? The categories or the averages attached?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 and that is the reason i follow sumersets threads . confusion ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Warrior Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 18.6.1 Riders new to Premier League racing are categorised as follows: Cat 1: Riders with an end of the previous seasons published average in the Polish Ekstraliga or the Swedish Elitserien of above 6.00 points and a Rider subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship Cat 2: Riders with an end of the previous seasons published average in the Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other Riders riding currently in any Professional Speedway League, Cat 3a: Riders not riding in a Professional Speedway League Cat 3b: Commonwealth or USA (to a maximum of 4 each season) Riders new to British Speedway Cat 4: Riders who have ridden in the National Development League as an Amateur 18.6.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the PL racing is: Cat 1 8.00 Cat 2 7.00 Cat 3a 5.00 Cat 3b 7.00 Cat 4 3.00 So which part if the 2015 rule is changing?? The categories or the averages attached?? I bet if it is true (if). The promotion are using the fact that Allen had signed a contract for Berwick last season so therefore is not new to British Speedway. This would qualify for cat3a. Just a thought, what do more experienced heads think?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Reading Conner Dugards introduction of Nick Phillips to Eastbourne, I was surprised to find BWD had been riding round Somerset last year. We know he has a place in the PL this year so looks to be Somerset bound for sure. I don't think you will be disappointed he is a bit of a thriller and never gives up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I bet if it is true (if). The promotion are using the fact that Allen had signed a contract for Berwick last season so therefore is not new to British Speedway. This would qualify for cat3a. Just a thought, what do more experienced heads think?.thats some stretch of the interpretation!If it is true I hope its a genuine adjustment in the regs rather than that option! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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