Willowman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Why 2005 if the Rebels were in the PL from 2002? Only because the BSPA website History Archive starts then. Just wanted to get an idea. 10 years isn't too bad a period without making it mammoth task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Fair enough. But I thought the BSPA archive went back to the stone age. Mind you the sport still seems to be in the stone ages! Maybe the archive didn't go that far back when you started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 The bspa archives do go way back just had a quick look. The rebels finished 16th out of 17 teams in 2002,17th of 18 teams in 2003,13th out of 15 teams in 2004. Good years not to include if your a somerset fan,mind you i think this season could be their best ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Average position for the last 11 seasons: Avg. Posn. Seasons Team 2.8 6 King's Lynn 4.4 5 Ipswich 5.0 11 Somerset 5.1 11 Edinburgh 5.3 4 Birmingham 5.5 2 Peterborough 6.0 11 Workington 6.5 11 Sheffield 7.2 11 Rye House 7.2 11 Newcastle 7.5 4 I.o.W 7.8 8 Scunthorpe 8.8 11 Berwick 8.9 10 Redcar 9.0 1 Exeter 9.0 3 Leicester 9.1 11 Glasgow 9.5 2 Reading 10.4 5 Plymouth 11.8 6 Stoke 12.7 7 Newport 13.0 1 Hull 13.7 3 Mildenhall The bspa archives do go way back just had a quick look. The rebels finished 16th out of 17 teams in 2002,17th of 18 teams in 2003,13th out of 15 teams in 2004. Good years not to include if your a somerset fan,mind you i think this season could be their best ever. Yes you are correct on all counts. If you have a look you will find that 2005 was the earliest in the paragragh "ARCHIVE OF LINKS FROM THE FOLLOWING BRITISH SPEEDWAY SEASONS:" which I can Web Query in Excel. The other years would require entering manually. Edited July 5, 2016 by Willowman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I was going to say Kings Lynn must be up near the top .. they were fairly dominant in the PL seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I'm wondering if we hadn't been so unlucky in the 2012 and 14 playoff finals wether we may have been top. Care to explain how Somerset were "so unlucky" in 2014 play off final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 ... gave a very interesting result considering the reactions of supporters of a certain club this year. And if you haven't guessed it I was referring to Ipswich who have done well with 3, 7, 2, 3, 7 since they dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 So Glasgow have been mince most of the time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I love mince. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 And if you haven't guessed it I was referring to Ipswich who have done well with 3, 7, 2, 3, 7 since they dropped. Could be a little lower this year thou . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 And if you haven't guessed it I was referring to Ipswich who have done well with 3, 7, 2, 3, 7 since they dropped.so we have been consistent.... consistently just not quite good enough. Hence the frustrations of many on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 so we have been consistent.... consistently just not quite good enough. Hence the frustrations of many on here. If Berwick got that I'd be over the moon... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Care to explain how Somerset were "so unlucky" in 2014 play off final?[/quote, Played both matches without Allen or Kurtz. R/R for Brady , and guests for Allen. Summers and Kennett only managed to beat Sedgeman out of the Monarchs top 5, pretty poor show imo when you realise we only lost by one point. In the home league fixture Allen scored a max and Brady paid 13 in Edinburgh's heaviest defeat that year I believe. Still not saying we would have won with them riding before everyone starts jumping up and down, just pointing out we were unlucky. Hope that answers your question. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Care to explain how Somerset were "so unlucky" in 2014 play off final?[/quote, Played both matches without Allen or Kurtz. R/R for Brady , and guests for Allen. Summers and Kennett only managed to beat Sedgeman out of the Monarchs top 5, pretty poor show imo when you realise we only lost by one point. In the home league fixture Allen scored a max and Brady paid 13 in Edinburgh's heaviest defeat that year I believe. Still not saying we would have won with them riding before everyone starts jumping up and down, just pointing out we were unlucky. Hope that answers your question. As you were comparing the results of the League matches to the Play-Offs you should have also looked at the following also:- Steve Worrall in the league scored 4 in the away league match & paid 13 in the home fixture whereas r/r in the Play-Offs were 2 away and paid 7 at home. You also ignored that Oliver Allen only scored 3 in the league match at the Dale while guest Summers recorded 6. Likewise Brady Kurtz only score paid 2 at Armadale in the League whereas r/r recorded paid 9. Oh and by the way, the Final League Table had Edinburgh on 74pts and Somerset on 67 Hope that gives you a more balanced analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 As you were comparing the results of the League matches to the Play-Offs you should have also looked at the following also:- Steve Worrall in the league scored 4 in the away league match & paid 13 in the home fixture whereas r/r in the Play-Offs were 2 away and paid 7 at home. You also ignored that Oliver Allen only scored 3 in the league match at the Dale while guest Summers recorded 6. Likewise Brady Kurtz only score paid 2 at Armadale in the League whereas r/r recorded paid 9. Oh and by the way, the Final League Table had Edinburgh on 74pts and Somerset on 67 Hope that gives you a more balanced analysis Ha ha , all good points Cyclone, however the finishing points total in league are irrelevant in a play off situation , which incidentally I personally don't like. I believe that the team with the most points are the true champs. Remember I'm saying we were unlucky not you did not deserve to win, I think if you had been missing Cook and Worrell and we had been missing only Brady it would have probably been a different outcome. A bit hard to take when it also happened 2 years previous against Scunny. Surely any team that gets to a play off final and loses its No 1 for both legs twice and loses by one point is unlucky, do you not think. Never mind it's in the past, be great if we can go all the way this year and go into any final with a full side😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Rebels were the side brave enough to take a chance on wilson dean on a 5av, i dont think they or him could ask for more. They are a terrific side 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 As you were comparing the results of the League matches to the Play-Offs you should have also looked at the following also:- Steve Worrall in the league scored 4 in the away league match & paid 13 in the home fixture whereas r/r in the Play-Offs were 2 away and paid 7 at home. You also ignored that Oliver Allen only scored 3 in the league match at the Dale while guest Summers recorded 6. Likewise Brady Kurtz only score paid 2 at Armadale in the League whereas r/r recorded paid 9. Oh and by the way, the Final League Table had Edinburgh on 74pts and Somerset on 67 Hope that gives you a more balanced analysis Any idea what happened in the pairs tonight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Rebels were the side brave enough to take a chance on wilson dean on a 5av, i dont think they or him could ask for more. They are a terrific side Len Silver was very interested, but then he upped sticks and moved to Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Any idea what happened in the pairs tonight ? everyone else lost , somerset didn't . ( the updates site must be hard to use at times for some folk ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 everyone else lost , somerset didn't . ( the updates site must be hard to use at times for some folk ) Somerset won because they were the best team on the night, were you at the meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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