JamesB Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) And it happens again. I tire of promoters taking no responsibility for the riders they track and the riders they face. Im not saying any of Ryes signings are deliberately dangerous but a lack of experience increases the risk. With the continued obsession of chucking 16/17 year olds into the NL as soon as they get a bike are they helping their development or increasing the risk of them struggling, becoming disillusioned with the sport and walking away or worse getting injured. Its not that many years ago that riders would be sent away to get some experience and prove their determination whereas now they are welcomed with open arms. Have a read of John Louis' book. John himself 'just got on a speedway bike' direct from grasstrack as did many other successful Witches riders of the 70's. Edited January 19, 2016 by JamesB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Have a read of John Louis' book. John himself 'just got on a speedway bike' direct from grasstrack as did many other successful Witches riders of the 70's. True however unless my maths is wrong born 1941 & made his debut in 1970 aged 29. Not sure how much grasstrack he did but in modern times he would be considered ancient for a debutant yet look what he achieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 True however unless my maths is wrong born 1941 & made his debut in 1970 aged 29. Not sure how much grasstrack he did but in modern times he would be considered ancient for a debutant yet look what he achieved. You are correct. John was a latecomer to speedway having ridden grasstrack from a young age, however many of those who subsequently followed the same route at Ipswich were much younger. John says in his book that he found it easier than most other riders to ride rough tracks because of his background. I guess if you have natural ability on a bike then you have a chance of switching disciplines successfully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 True however unless my maths is wrong born 1941 & made his debut in 1970 aged 29. Not sure how much grasstrack he did but in modern times he would be considered ancient for a debutant yet look what he achieved. John Louis was pretty good scrambles rider (motor x in today's world) I saw him and he was streets ahead of the majority of then division 2 riders so he was an exception. A year later you had a similar rider from that background Tony Davey go straight to the top very quickly. It's as much about the ability of the rider and their attitude towards a different challenge and good equipment helps too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Danyon Hume is the latest to jump ship, replaced by Sam Woods, hopefully with a bike fitted with stabilisers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Danyon Hume is the latest to jump ship, replaced by Sam Woods, hopefully with a bike fitted with stabilisers Brum bound? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) As far as riders are concerned there seems to be a lot of mismanagement going on since Scott's arrived. Edited January 20, 2016 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 A little worrying that our new joint team manager doesn't know what league his riders are racing in. Hume in PL according to comments on Rye Fans fb site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) It's a pity neither Danyon or Alfie will be Raiders this year. I was looking forward to seeing how they developed. Edited January 20, 2016 by JmeRay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyrocket Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 As far as riders are concerned there seems to be a lot of mismanagement going on since Scott's arrived. All the good work put in by Andrew last season seems to be going down the toilet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hob Nob Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 A little worrying that our new joint team manager doesn't know what league his riders are racing in. Hume in PL according to comments on Rye Fans fb site. Even more worrying when the Co promoters wife's insulting the fans intelligence on there. Way to go team bmr, how to win fans & influence people!!! PS....Great PR guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Even more worrying when the Co promoters wife's insulting the fans intelligence on there. Way to go team bmr, how to win fans & influence people!!! PS....Great PR guys!! No different from Len Silver, he alienated many fans during his final few years at Rye Edited January 21, 2016 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Until we have heard both parts of the story none of us can comment. I presume hume will now move to birmingham? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 If the rider didn't want to ride for us then it's best not to keep him against his will, although I was looking forward to watching his development, along with Bowtell and Hunter. Woods surprised me last year by attaining an average over three, if he does the same in 2016 he'll have done well, the tail looks a lot longer now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 If the rider didn't want to ride for us then it's best not to keep him against his will, although I was looking forward to watching his development, along with Bowtell and Hunter. Woods surprised me last year by attaining an average over three, if he does the same in 2016 he'll have done well, the tail looks a lot longer now. Is it fair to say the Raiders look like the Dolly Parton of the NL ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmeRay Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) If the rider didn't want to ride for us then it's best not to keep him against his will, although I was looking forward to watching his development, along with Bowtell and Hunter. Woods surprised me last year by attaining an average over three, if he does the same in 2016 he'll have done well, the tail looks a lot longer now. I understand not keeping a rider who doesn't want to be there but this seems to be becoming a regular occurrence this winter which is a shame as the team spirit at the start of last year was very good. Edited January 21, 2016 by JmeRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I personally thought that Hume would benefit from a move away so on a personal level good for him (as long as its NL) but it now makes releasing Bowtell an even bigger mistake. Not sure what Mrs BMR has been saying but we have all had our other halves run their mouths off on our behalf before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) You can not stop riders moving on usually for a better financial offer,,or closer to home .. So it does no good attaching blame to either party ..However in this case there is very little left to pick from ..Sam Woods has been around for a while now,and needs some good equipment to make the improvement he could make ,,money for that is the big problem ,he needs sponsers ?.. At present this could cost the Raiders points in what is looking a very long tail.. However no one can predict with any certainty the possible improvement in any of the riders and we have to hope that will be the case in at least a couple of them ...On the plus side the top 3 look good for at least 30 + points a meeting ,,, So your looking for around 15+ points a meeting, from the remaining 4 riders,,can they achieve this ,,that is the big question???, Edited January 21, 2016 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm afraid to say I think rye house will finish bottom now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I think home advantage might be enough to keep Rye of the bottom but all the riders will need to click especially without the guidance of Andrew Silver this year. If the Raiders & Rockets both struggle I fear the end could become much closer than most of us would like to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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