torpointfanatic22 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 On another note, Sam Simota returns... http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Simota-told-improve-away-form-signing/story-28192725-detail/story.html Signs on and told to improve, bizarre press statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Obviously nobody told the local press that Risager has already signed for Ipswich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former devil Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 What an awful post..... You are talking rubbish and obviously have a bias view... Totally agree about it being an awfu post. It is also very disrespectful to the genuine members of the supporters club. Not the first time he has posted rubbish on a forum and I doubt it will be the last. Anybody remember him telling us what a great season Fisher was going to have, how he was in the best health and had the best equipment he had had for years? How Fisher was going to have a testimonial with world class riders at the S.B.A? Hmm!! Yes he might have put vast amounts of money into the club but did he also not jeopardise the signing of the lease due to his outbursts about the Saint Boniface College? He is entitled to his opinion but the way he put it over in his post is downright rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ryan Fishers Testimonial was put off because Glasgow wouldnt move their fixture date to allow it to be run on the Friday before the World Cup, which would have allowed the USA World cup team to be in Plymouth. I made a fairly innocent joke about 4 cardinals, the person without the sense of humour got caught a few weeks later having it off over a school desk and departed. Knowing Ryan had fully recovered from his shoulder operation and that he had two new bikes I expected him to have a super season, isnt hindsight a wonderful thing. As a result of your comments Mr Conceited and former devil I have decided I dont see any point in pouring money into Plymouth Speedway any more just to be a target for your invective and attacks and for me to part finance your nights out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrConceited Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) [quote name="barncooseboy" post="2713663" As a result of your comments Mr Conceited and former devil I have decided I dont see any point in pouring money into Plymouth Speedway any more just to be a target for your invective and attacks and for me to part finance your nights out Do you actually read posts? I think you will find my previous posts were not disparaging to either Plymouth speedway or yourself which I didn't even acknowledge! I was merely stating a fact that the supporters club was being disbanded and that was fact! I personally feel you seem the type of character that actually has more money than sense as your spelling and grammar have a lot to be desired! Stick to the facts and the post and don't target the poster which I have nothing to defend! I agree with Former devil that your post was rude and you should choose your choice of words carefully! As for investing a large sum of money into Plymouth speedway is highly commendable but every supporter contributes in some way over the course of the season including me who attends the majority of the home meetings. As for your childish behaviour in stating you will not invest in future does really some up your personality! Finally you do not finance my speedway nights in any shape or form! Edited November 19, 2015 by MrConceited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coomie Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Do you actually read posts? I think you will find my previous posts were not disparaging to either Plymouth speedway or yourself which I didn't even acknowledge! I was merely stating a fact that the supporters club was being disbanded and that was fact! I personally feel you seem the type of character that actually has more money than sense as your spelling and grammar have a lot to be desired! Stick to the facts and the post and don't target the poster which I have nothing to defend! I agree with Former devil that your post was rude and you should choose your choice of words carefully! As for investing a large sum of money into Plymouth speedway is highly commendable but every supporter contributes in some way over the course of the season including me who attends the majority of the home meetings. As for your childish behaviour in stating you will not invest in future does really some up your personality! Finally you do not finance my speedway nights in any shape or form!may be you could help Exeter if they get a track again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) What an awful post..... You are talking rubbish and obviously have a bias view... You and yr fellow mud slingers are the ones who have milked this speedway club dry..... I suggest you issue a formal appology very quicky!! Perhaps what would have been better is a rebuttal of the points Barncooseboy has made, rather than merely saying he is 'talking rubbish'. So.............. Did the supporters club organise any events during the winter ? Did they organise any away travel ? Did they organise the end of season presentation night ? Did the committee get in free ? Did they stop selling raffle tickets at 19.10 ? Did they run the track shop ? Did they contribute £300 to the riders or was it more (if so, how much) ? And, for my benefit, precisely what did they do ? It would perhaps be unfair to judge Plymouth's supporters club by my experiences, but I am all too aware of at least one club that shut down its supporters organisation simply because they weren't getting their money's worth - indeed, it was costing them money. As a result of your comments Mr Conceited and former devil I have decided I dont see any point in pouring money into Plymouth Speedway any more just to be a target for your invective and attacks and for me to part finance your nights out Let yourself down big time there. Two or three people have a pop at you and you throw your toys out of the pram (if memory serves me correctly, not for the first time). I am aware of your final contribution to Plymouth Speedway and know just how significant it is and how much it is appreciated. It is unfortunate that you choose to make a decision of that nature on the back of so small a proportion of the fan base. What an awful post..... You are talking rubbish and obviously have a bias view... Totally agree about it being an awfu post. It is also very disrespectful to the genuine members of the supporters club. Not the first time he has posted rubbish on a forum and I doubt it will be the last. Anybody remember him telling us what a great season Fisher was going to have, how he was in the best health and had the best equipment he had had for years? How Fisher was going to have a testimonial with world class riders at the S.B.A? Hmm!! Yes he might have put vast amounts of money into the club but did he also not jeopardise the signing of the lease due to his outbursts about the Saint Boniface College? He is entitled to his opinion but the way he put it over in his post is downright rude. That depends whether it is true or not. I'll make a judgement when I hear the other side of the argument rather than someone just saying 'rubbish'. A big sponsor is more than entitled to his opinion. Edited November 19, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguetrader Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Perhaps what would have been better is a rebuttal of the points Barncooseboy has made, rather than merely saying he is 'talking rubbish'. So.............. Did the supporters club organise any events during the winter ? Did they organise any away travel ? Did they organise the end of season presentation night ? Did the committee get in free ? Did they stop selling raffle tickets at 19.10 ? Did they run the track shop ? Did they contribute £300 to the riders or was it more (if so, how much) ? And, for my benefit, precisely what did they do ? It would perhaps be unfair to judge Plymouth's supporters club by my experiences, but I am all too aware of at least one club that shut down its supporters organisation simply because they weren't getting their money's worth - indeed, it was costing them money. Let yourself down big time there. Two or three people have a pop at you and you throw your toys out of the pram (if memory serves me correctly, not for the first time). I am aware of your final contribution to Plymouth Speedway and know just how significant it is and how much it is appreciated. It is unfortunate that you choose to make a decision of that nature on the back of so small a proportion of the fan base. That depends whether it is true or not. I'll make a judgement when I hear the other side of the argument rather than someone just saying 'rubbish'. A big sponsor is more than entitled to his opinion. Plymouth is a great little race track. I have always respected Halifaxtiger posts on numerous subjects but this one is a gem with no response yet from anyone to answer his simple questions. Come on Plymouth supporters club, do yourself justice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Plymouth is a great little race track. I have always respected Halifaxtiger posts on numerous subjects but this one is a gem with no response yet from anyone to answer his simple questions. Come on Plymouth supporters club, do yourself justice. There are more positive posters on this forum regarding Plymouth speedway from fans from other clubs than there are Plymouth fans. There's the odd positive one from lewy, but even he's losing the plot cos he posted something nice about Somerset recently! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 There are more positive posters on this forum regarding Plymouth speedway from fans from other clubs than there are Plymouth fans. There's the odd positive one from lewy, but even he's losing the plot cos he posted something nice about Somerset recently! Lol er I've had more stick about being nice than my usual self,dont worry normal service will resume shortly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Lol er I've had more stick about being nice than my usual self,dont worry normal service will resume shortly! Poor old Cliffeboy is traumatised! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Poor old Cliffeboy is traumatised! Thats my plan👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 There are more positive posters on this forum regarding Plymouth speedway from fans from other clubs than there are Plymouth fans. If truth were told I think that's the case with a lot of clubs !! Your earlier point about the negative posters disappearing when the Devils made it to the play offs is absolutely right. By and large, that shows they are not worth listening to because their posts are subjective rather than objective. I have made no secret of my regard for Plymouth's promotion, supporters and, especially, their track. Its one of the best in the country and utterly debunks the theory that having a big circuit is a necessity for good racing. Plymouth is a great little race track. I have always respected Halifaxtiger posts on numerous subjects but this one is a gem with no response yet from anyone to answer his simple questions. Come on Plymouth supporters club, do yourself justice. I'll let them have a couple more days to respond before I comment further. I am sure, though, that we can all draw conclusions if there is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) If truth were told I think that's the case with a lot of clubs !! Yeh, funny that, init.. Edited November 22, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 If Plymouth took a chance with Jack Holder on 7:00 would the take a chance on BWD on a 5:00? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 If Plymouth took a chance with Jack Holder on 7:00 would the take a chance on BWD on a 5:00?Yes they will oops would !!😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 That depends whether it is true or not. I'll make a judgement when I hear the other side of the argument rather than someone just saying 'rubbish'. So, no response from anyone from the Supporters Club or those who simply termed Barncooseboy's criticism as 'rubbish'. I (and probably everyone else) will draw their own conclusions from that. I don't know a lot about supporters clubs but I am aware that away travel at Plymouth is - as Barncooseboy said - organised by the Devils on Tour, not the supporters club. In contrast, I am also aware that the Mildenhall one organises both away travel and the end of season presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickled Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would like to state from the outset I am not a member of the supporters club commitee nor indeed a member of the supporters club but I do have a family member who is/was a member of the commitee and I wil ltry to answer the questions as best I can. The riders from this years team recieved over £3,000.00 raised from organised events. No events had been planned for the winter mainly due to the fact that it is very difficult motivating people to support events during the season so nigh impossible during the close season. The Devils on tour do indeed arrange travel for away meetings but only for themselves they hire a minibus, the commitee arranged for around eight away meetings the details of which were posted up in the supports hut where people could put their name down, unfortunately not all the trips came off for a variety of reasons ranging from poorly supported to meetings being cancelled to the person providing the coach and driver was to busy. As regards to the 50/50 tickets not being sold after 19.10 this is probaly due to the fact that anyone wihing to attend the meeting would already be there by then as parade is at 19.15, surely people are not suggesting that the ticket seller sit on their own staring at the sky for the remainder of the evening. As far as the track shop closing at 19.10 I do not actually know about that, but as the promotion took over the running of it this year perhaps that is a question best answered by them. With regards to things closing at 19.10, I am sure the people collecting the entrance money and program money were not in their booth's much longer than that but were indeed taking their places to watch the meeting, after all that is what everyone is there for. As far as the commitee getting in for free, two members of the commitee were issued with passes allowing them free entry, both of which o.a.p's so a grand total of £22.00 missing off the gate. With regards to the end of season event the promotion did indeed book the venue but the commitee were then given a week to orginise everything, organising trophies, contacting riders for items to auction etc. All of this ending this way is actually a shame, not only for the members of the commitee who gave their time willingly often under trying circumstances but also for the future riders because ultimately they are the ones that are going to lose out in the short term with the long term effect of the club losing out, but hey speedway in this country is in such a strong, healthy position it can afford to lose volunteers and paying customers. A final note there will be a egm of the supporters club held soon, so if Mr Spargo or anyone else would like to attend feel free then you then you will be able to find out the facts, hey who knows you might even get the opportunity to tear them to pieces in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger MARTIN Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Ryan Fishers Testimonial was put off because Glasgow wouldnt move their fixture date to allow it to be run on the Friday before the World Cup, which would have allowed the USA World cup team to be in Plymouth. I made a fairly innocent joke about 4 cardinals, the person without the sense of humour got caught a few weeks later having it off over a school desk and departed. Knowing Ryan had fully recovered from his shoulder operation and that he had two new bikes I expected him to have a super season, isnt hindsight a wonderful thing. As a result of your comments Mr Conceited and former devil I have decided I dont see any point in pouring money into Plymouth Speedway any more just to be a target for your invective and attacks and for me to part finance your nights out Pick your dummy up, because two people have a go, you throw your dummy out, I know what you have put into the club, and I would believe more what you say before a so called person in the club now, who should take up politic's, why didn't you buy the club, then sort it out and run it like it should be run, if you feel the way you do, I do think that the way the club has treated, after you have bailed them out, is a disgraced. Edited November 23, 2015 by Devildodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 If Plymouth took a chance with Jack Holder on 7:00 would the take a chance on BWD on a 5:00? I think it totally depends on the rest of the side. We already have Simota plus we need a three pointer. Do we really want a tail of Simota, BWD and a three pointer? I'm not sure. If we went with BWD, Holder and a three pointer by my reckoning we'd have 8.39 for a number one. Get the three pointer and the number one right and we may be OK. That is of course a big IF as I'm convinced Holder is set to become a Rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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