Alan_Jones Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 They made a point of stating after last years AGM that this year they were bringing forward the AGM by "at least a month" so clubs could get on with signing riders before they disappeared for the winter. So I don't think this is a pre-AGM as such, or is it? Who knows with this lot! This is THE AGM but although they voted last year to bring it forward, it seems they forgot that their constitution only allows them to vote in November and didn't change that as I'm sure they could have at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think the phrase is piss up and brewery!! No wonder the sport is in the state it is! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 This is THE AGM but although they voted last year to bring it forward, it seems they forgot that their constitution only allows them to vote in November and didn't change that as I'm sure they could have at the time. ..and they could have at any time by creating an extraordinary general meeting beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 According to a new announcement on the Lakeside website there is a cooling off period before any announcements, and reading between the lines it seems to be due to seeing who will be prepared to sign up to the EDR next year. However Jon Cook and Neil Vatcher say they have enough information to start signing three or four riders plus of course AJ who has already said he is coming. Every other promotion must presumably be in the same boat and able to start signing riders if they have not already done so. I don't know what people are moaning about..99% couldn't particularly care who the new chairman or MC are going to be, as it will make no difference till the season starts, we are going to have details of any major rule changes around 2-3 weeks earlier than normal and team announcements are likely to follow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 According to a new announcement on the Lakeside website there is a cooling off period before any announcements, and reading between the lines it seems to be due to seeing who will be prepared to sign up to the EDR next year. However Jon Cook and Neil Vatcher say they have enough information to start signing three or four riders plus of course AJ who has already said he is coming. You don't need to read between any lines. It's because the silly buggers in charge forgot to vote on a constitution change that would allow an AGM before the end of the season. So they have to wait until November 1st before they can official vote on the changes and sign them off! And they wonder why the fans think they're incompetent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 AJ is signed for Lakeside and their press release also talks about a fast track draft. I'm not expecting any major changes this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 AJ is signed for Lakeside and their press release also talks about a fast track draft. I'm not expecting any major changes this year. Because it's all working so well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Because it's all working so well... It probably more solvent this year as I would assume its 25% more Sky money (2 less teams) for 28% less home meetings. So the Sky subsidy goes further. Of course crowd levels would be a whole other subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) It probably more solvent this year as I would assume its 25% more Sky money (2 less teams) for 28% less home meetings. So the Sky subsidy goes further. Of course crowd levels would be a whole other subject. Sky only pay clubs compensation when they have home meetings on sky. There isn't a subsidy anymore. Edited October 19, 2015 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Isnt the main part of the AGM to divvy up the seasons proceeds ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Isnt the main part of the AGM to divvy up the seasons proceeds ? You sure have a wicked mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Sky only pay clubs compensation when they have home meetings on sky. There isn't a subsidy anymore. Incorrect....Clubs receive an amount for being in the Elite League as well as a sum for each home meeting Edited October 19, 2015 by Reliant Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Personally would like to see a reversion to the 1988 BL format, minimum 3 Brits per team one of whom must be under 21. Would mean bulk of ftr riders would still get a team spot, progression would mean getting tougher rides in main body of team, as all riders averages would count (current fast track riders to come in either at 0.5 of el average or 0.6 of pl) for team building should even teams up, and would avoid anomalies like r worrall not having a spot while lesser riders did. Ideally this would be combined with pl having two British reserves u21/23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Personally would like to see a reversion to the 1988 BL format, minimum 3 Brits per team one of whom must be under 21. Would mean bulk of ftr riders would still get a team spot, progression would mean getting tougher rides in main body of team, as all riders averages would count (current fast track riders to come in either at 0.5 of el average or 0.6 of pl) for team building should even teams up, and would avoid anomalies like r worrall not having a spot while lesser riders did. Ideally this would be combined with pl having two British reserves u21/23. Uner the law that would be a non starter .....the worst thing about the rules have been the way yet again how Poole have been allowed to get the best deal in the draft thou they win the league every year ....I expect the same this year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Uner the law that would be a non starter .....the worst thing about the rules have been the way yet again how Poole have been allowed to get the best deal in the draft thou they win the league every year ....I expect the same this year . It's only really against the law when a court says so. Bring in the rule, let some foreigner test it in court. Could take months or even years. Season has started by then. The BSPA don't eve have to fight it so no cost to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well first details of AGM to be released at 1pm, no doubt the sport is in its best shape ever and nothing much had to be changed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Incorrect....Clubs receive an amount for being in the Elite League as well as a sum for each home meeting They did for the old deal, dont believe they do in the latest deal. Edited October 19, 2015 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Well first details of AGM to be released at 1pm, no doubt the sport is in its best shape ever and nothing much had to be changed ! We're a fickle lot, in one breath we ask for big changes, in another they should have a plan and stick to it! They have had a plan with the FTR ....... The main things I would like changed is 2 nights a week racing and to improve the presentation of meetings big time .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 We're a fickle lot, in one breath we ask for big changes, in another they should have a plan and stick to it! They have had a plan with the FTR ....... The main things I would like changed is 2 nights a week racing and to improve the presentation of meetings big time .... Personal opinion is the actual rules they have don't matter so much. It's the running of a meeting that kills the sport. Does it really matter what average riders come in on for 90% of people? No. Does it matter what the tac rules are for 90% of people? No. Does it matter that a meeting drags on for 2.5 hours with very little happening except for some crappy music being played? YES! Does it matter that meetings are postponed and re-arranged on a whim? Yes! The sports issues are not the rule. It's all the small things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 We're a fickle lot, in one breath we ask for big changes, in another they should have a plan and stick to it! They have had a plan with the FTR ....... The main things I would like changed is 2 nights a week racing and to improve the presentation of meetings big time .... They complain about low crowds which means they have to promote more and be more radical in changes they make in every aspect, tinkering with odd thing each year will not get fans back on the terraces. Personal opinion is the actual rules they have don't matter so much. It's the running of a meeting that kills the sport. Does it really matter what average riders come in on for 90% of people? No. Does it matter what the tac rules are for 90% of people? No. Does it matter that a meeting drags on for 2.5 hours with very little happening except for some crappy music being played? YES! Does it matter that meetings are postponed and re-arranged on a whim? Yes! The sports issues are not the rule. It's all the small things. Meetings dragging on and on is the main issue for me, no enjoyment just standing about and riders need to help on that also ! Pit gate should not reopen until end of heat, unsatisfactory start should be just straight back to tapes. Accidents and Air Fence delays are acceptable but keep fans informed all the time ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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