Countershaftcounter Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 While other countries have next season already sorted, thus enabling riders to organise work / accommodation / sponsors etc … Good old England has to wait another ten days, ( which is a lot earlier than previous years ) We all know the promotors have basically sorted it out already but what do you think next year will bring ? In any normal, well run sport the season on season rules tweaking would be easy to predict but this is speedway we're talking about . thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 While other countries have next season already sorted, thus enabling riders to organise work / accommodation / sponsors etc … Good old England has to wait another ten days, ( which is a lot earlier than previous years ) We all know the promotors have basically sorted it out already but what do you think next year will bring ? In any normal, well run sport the season on season rules tweaking would be easy to predict but this is speedway we're talking about . thoughts ? The AGM used to be about the 27th November, but this year they have brought it forward and already have most items discussed at a Pre AGM meeting. The season officially hasn't ended and could overlap the new AGM, and yet you still moan about it, when other countries seasons have actually finished. FFS. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hopefully the 'powers that be' will have learn't from previous mistakes. At least the Meeting is earlier this year, so that is a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted October 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 The AGM used to be about the 27th November, but this year they have brought it forward and already have most items discussed at a Pre AGM meeting. The season officially hasn't ended and could overlap the new AGM, and yet you still moan about it, when other countries seasons have actually finished. FFS. FFS !!! bloody hell. It was to start a discussion, go and brush the sand out of your underwear and have a word with yourself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 While other countries have next season already sorted, thus enabling riders to organise work / accommodation / sponsors etc … Good old England has to wait another ten days, ( which is a lot earlier than previous years ) We all know the promotors have basically sorted it out already but what do you think next year will bring ? In any normal, well run sport the season on season rules tweaking would be easy to predict but this is speedway we're talking about . thoughts ? Thoughts? Thought it was BRITISH speedway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Let us hope that this year they make changes for the good of the Sport and not to just benefit a few promoters looking after themselves, Hope springs eternal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 FFS !!! bloody hell. It was to start a discussion, go and brush the sand out of your underwear and have a word with yourself. If it was your intention to start an intelligent discussion may I suggest that in future you avoid posting offensive rubbish to achieve this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 If it was your intention to start an intelligent discussion may I suggest that in future you avoid posting offensive rubbish to achieve this? He didn't start the offensive rubbish.. The 'FFS' was brought in by Tsunami, who could have explained his point without it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hope they don't change the heat formula in the Premier League if they bring a draft system in at reserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Previously I posted this and will stand by every word. Promotion is the act of encouraging something to happen or develop. Promoters are supposed to help forward or encourage (enterprise or result); publicize and sell (product); initiate (project). In the Speedway Star several articles have been printed regarding the lack of support for teams up and down the country and also several letters published that state no local publicity has been made regarding meetings or events at tracks. Preaching to the converted is witnessed in churches up and down the country every Sunday, where attendances have dwindled also. Until heads are taken out of the sand by the ones who run the sport nothing will happen. Changing the rules year in and year out will not resolve issues. Making a change in League structure and race days, will help in short term with personal finances for the converted. EMPHASIS must be made by every club to get out into their communities and PROMOTE the clubs. NEW, YOUNG, ENERGETIC AND ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTERS ARE REQUIRED FOR NEXT SEASON. TO ACHIEVE THIS IT BEGINS AT THE END OF THIS SEASON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Previously I posted this and will stand by every word. Promotion is the act of encouraging something to happen or develop. Promoters are supposed to help forward or encourage (enterprise or result); publicize and sell (product); initiate (project). In the Speedway Star several articles have been printed regarding the lack of support for teams up and down the country and also several letters published that state no local publicity has been made regarding meetings or events at tracks. Preaching to the converted is witnessed in churches up and down the country every Sunday, where attendances have dwindled also. Until heads are taken out of the sand by the ones who run the sport nothing will happen. Changing the rules year in and year out will not resolve issues. Making a change in League structure and race days, will help in short term with personal finances for the converted. EMPHASIS must be made by every club to get out into their communities and PROMOTE the clubs. NEW, YOUNG, ENERGETIC AND ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTERS ARE REQUIRED FOR NEXT SEASON. TO ACHIEVE THIS IT BEGINS AT THE END OF THIS SEASON. NEW, YOUNG, ENERGETIC AND ENTHUSIASTIC PROMOTERS ARE REQUIRED FOR NEXT SEASON. I edited the above Post for accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hope they don't change the heat formula in the Premier League if they bring a draft system in at reserve. Please please please....... don't introduce draft reserves at Premier League level and the dreadful associated heat format. Simply revert any foreign rider to their original assessed average if their CMA has fallen below that level and assess British riders with over 100 Premier League matches at 5.00. This will naturally open spaces for 3.00 British youngsters and increase the pool of riders. It would also stop British youngsters being dropped as soon as they improve their average to bring in a "more experienced" alternative. It might also help with work permits as permit riders would never drop below 7.00. One of the great things about 7 man teams is that you can build different types of teams. Not everyone can afford an out and out no. 1. Those who can't go for strength in depth. It's interesting to see different team compositions. The draft system and heat format make team building more generic, everyone is looking for next seasons Gomolski. Great to see more British talent but not at the expense of the product. The Premier League in its current format already develops British talent to a certain standard. The failing is in developing the likes of Auty, the Worralls etc etc to the next level of International class racers. That's been the problem for years now. There are loads of examples of wonderkid youngsters who develop quickly but who never get any better than Premier League no. 1's. I'd also like to see a change to match scoring trialled (perhaps in the KOC). Still 3-2-1 points per heat but matches would be won by the team with the most heat wins (i.e. 5-1's or 4-2's). Should make for closer matches with score lines like 6-5 etc, and the potential for more last heat deciders. Using this format for this seasons Elite league Grand Final would have resulted in Belle Vue winning a last heat decider. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hope they don't change the heat formula in the Premier League if they bring a draft system in at reserve. Absolutely I think this is the one failing of the draft system we have now, maybe we could go to sixteen heats and have one extra reserves race later in the meeting for example, but the other fifteen heats should stay as they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'd now like to see the top fast trackers become pukka reserves so they can move up and down from the top 5, seems the next step to me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 When is the AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The AGM is always my favourite time of the year. They always keep me guessing on which wonderful delights they can come up with next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Whereas I hate this time of year, gimme March!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 When is the AGM? This weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Is this jolly taking place in Rugby or somewhere where it is warm ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Is this jolly taking place in Rugby or somewhere where it is warm ? RUGBY but as mentioned in SS no Chairman or MC officials can be elected before November which is a bit of a farce to say the least. Buster Chapman has indicated he would be prepared to stand for the chairmanship, rumours that Jon Cook would as well. Maybe Gordon Pairman. None will have a magic wand of course but might at least steer the ship in a different direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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