Hunty Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's a decent bit of land, I went to go and have a look when roumers first came about. There are houses still quite close to the stadium and to be honest it wasn't down the best street as of canal street but it would have been perfect for a track. They need to look further afield, maybe somewhere in Tipton Wednesbury or West Brom and just get a track in the area not in cradley or Dudley who have given us no hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I couldn't have told you where was referred to either but based on the comment above I assume the land is where I've circled (ish) in green and the intended tram line where I've marked red. There is plenty of land between Birmingham New Road and up to Castle Gate but having been refused it for two decades it seems somewhat pointless to continue targeting it now. I've asked a couple of times whether anywhere in the Wolverhampton area rather than Dudley and Sandwell has been looked at but I've had no reply to that. For those unfamiliar with the area - The outskirts of Wolverhampton is only about a minute drive from where is shown on the photo as this is where the three council areas meet. At least Wolverhampton is known to be speedway/sport friendly whereas the others pay lip service but never act on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I couldn't have told you where was referred to either but based on the comment above I assume the land is where I've circled (ish) in green and the intended tram line where I've marked red. There is plenty of land between Birmingham New Road and up to Castle Gate but having been refused it for two decades it seems somewhat pointless to continue targeting it now. I've asked a couple of times whether anywhere in the Wolverhampton area rather than Dudley and Sandwell has been looked at but I've had no reply to that. For those unfamiliar with the area - The outskirts of Wolverhampton is only about a minute drive from where is shown on the photo as this is where the three council areas meet. At least Wolverhampton is known to be speedway/sport friendly whereas the others pay lip service but never act on it. . Established and existing speedway promotions have always had a weighted say about agreeing to another track/promotion opening within a certain radius of their venue. (Such distances have been 20mls or more, and objections upheld.) To propose there be 2 venues in W'ton seems ludicrous, to put it politely. When both would have a common member within each's promotion is even more unlikely. Why would CvS want 2 tracks in one borough? Why would he want to add capital costs (wherever in the Black Country,) to a financially successful operation based wholly on variable cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 To suggest that it makes any difference to Wolverhampton Speedway, or CVS due to his involvement with it and Cradley Speedway, in which town, borough, council area a site for a new track is found makes no sense to me. So heavily populated is the area that the borders are blurred anywhere around here. Take Coseley as an example of this. It's controlled by DMBC, has Bilston in its address, a WV postcode rather than a D and sits very squarely in the middle of Bilston (Wolverhampton), Sedgley (Dudley) and Tipton (Sandwell). Why would quarter of mile this way or that to technically place a new track in any of these (as examples rather than to be taken too literally) make the slightest difference to Wolverhampton Speedway or Birmingham Speedway? (I name Birmingham too as I would also suggest any site on the north western side within its control should also be considered) The two clubs are currently operating at the same stadium let alone in the same city/borough anyway! If CVS had an objection to this we'd not have made a comeback in 2010 nor continued at Monmore Green. Last year's move was nothing to do with an objection by CVS or Wolverhampton Speedway. So all the real world evidence, rather than the initial projections prior to the 2010 season, is entirely in support of my opinion that Wolverhampton could and should be looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I couldn't have told you where was referred to either but based on the comment above I assume the land is where I've circled (ish) in green and the intended tram line where I've marked red. There is plenty of land between Birmingham New Road and up to Castle Gate but having been refused it for two decades it seems somewhat pointless to continue targeting it now. I've asked a couple of times whether anywhere in the Wolverhampton area rather than Dudley and Sandwell has been looked at but I've had no reply to that. For those unfamiliar with the area - The outskirts of Wolverhampton is only about a minute drive from where is shown on the photo as this is where the three council areas meet. At least Wolverhampton is known to be speedway/sport friendly whereas the others pay lip service but never act on it. Cant view that attachment,but looking at Google Maps it seems the only place in Canal Street that looks like Nigel Pearson,s tweeted photo,is the piece of land just off the Dudley Road which used to be occupied by the old Harts Hill bus depot. Still cant fathom out though,how the Metro tracks would go through the middle of the site. Thought the idea of the new line was to get people to the Merry Hill shopping centre,whereas if it went to the proposed site it would be going in a different direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It's not on the road, if you go to the bottom of Canal street it's there and the old train route used to run through! If you go on google maps and find it, on the actually map view the old railway track is on the map and that's the line that metro want to use. The link between Wolverhampton and Brum is majority on old lines from the 1930s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 What average do people think Ashley Morris will hit this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Ash should get 10+ with Monmore as his home track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berniev123 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 9 to 10.5................depends how he team rides with his partner in a Heat. he has in the past followed team mates home many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I can't help but think this Cradley team is either a genuine title threat or a barely mid-table also-ran, and I really can't make my mind up which. So much rests on Kingston and Chessell (as I think we're very good at the top end and okay at the bottom end). They can both be match winners or cost you dearly at any given time. 1st or 7th?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I can't help but think this Cradley team is either a genuine title threat or a barely mid-table also-ran, and I really can't make my mind up which. So much rests on Kingston and Chessell (as I think we're very good at the top end and okay at the bottom end). They can both be match winners or cost you dearly at any given time. 1st or 7th?! That's my thinking on the team too! But I can't see you dropping as far as seventh. The two riders to make or break the team are obvious but even if they end up on the floor after they've led for 3 laps there's plenty of points and track advantage to win your home meetings and away I can see you getting to 42 and a bonus point. Imo its a play-off team and by that time Chessell and Kingston may have learnt to stay on in a point scoring position. My concern is those two as an erratic pairing who could as easily concede a 5-0 as hit a 5-1 over a genuine number 1! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I don't think we will start very good but finish very strong! I think Andrews and Purchase will leap frog the second strings into their positions! I agree also, it's either going to be formidable or a complete disaster from a Cradley point of view! It's an exciting league this year, lots of riders and team who could ruffle feathers and get amongst the pigeons! This is why I love NL speedway and hope stay here for a while yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Thing is both lads have been around a while, by which I mean that 2106 isn't their 1st/2nd season, so their reputation for binning it is a well established one. I hope to be proven very wrong but I can't see why the latter part of the coming season should suddenly be any different. Like I say; hope I'm wrong though. From a neutral point of view it promises to be another fascinating season. From the riders named so far I see B'ham and Mildy as faves. Eastie will be up there if/when they make changes for the second half of the season. KL look much better. Buxton continue to improve after some poor back-to-back seasons. Cov are solid enough assuming Dan and Martin maintain last season's form and Liam progresses as expected. Kent, Rye and Stoke will spring a few surpises. IOW may struggle away but once dialed in they could be useful at home. Bit of a question mark as to where BV fit in to all this at the moment but I suspect they'll be at least middle order to challenging for a PO spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I was just reading through the posts on the cradley website and I was surprised that the club had been overwhelmed by resoonce to season ticket sales and that we were approaching 200 season ticket sales. I don't know about you lot here but does 200 seem lower than you thought, they say that it's a good amount of sales and it is but a little lower than I thought. I know we are well supported but I usually seen towards 1000 at cradley meetings!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yeh 1000 but not all gonna be season ticket holders are they, so id so over 200 is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunty Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 It's the fact the of your going to most matches then the season ticket is just good value if you go far in the cup and into play offs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 It's the fact the of your going to most matches then the season ticket is just good value if you go far in the cup and into play offs! Agreed but only if you have the money in advance and know you are going every week. Its easier to find the money in weekly / monthly instalments than in one lump. Id say anything in excess of 200 is excellent. Some matches in the NL last year had less than that as a total crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Agreed but only if you have the money in advance and know you are going every week. Its easier to find the money in weekly / monthly instalments than in one lump. Id say anything in excess of 200 is excellent. Some matches in the NL last year had less than that as a total crowd. Went to stoke, Buxton last season & some weeks 200 would have been all that was there.Some elite clubs would love to have 200 season tickets holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 200 is very good especially for a club that isn't staying in one place! Shows what good backing they have I cant see why you would be disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Im sure I saw quoted that some NL meetings at Kings Lynn had sub 100 spectators? Shame really as the racing is often more entertaining that in the EL. If season ticket holders equate to appox a quarter of crowds then you should be in for a strongly supported season indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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