Glasgow 2016

[cyclone]

So Cyclone I thought I would reply to your post to state the truth direct from Snapper's mouth rather than the BS you have posted.

 

Last year was always going to be a learning curve for the new owners and they left the club management roles as they were as they looked at all aspects of the club to see what worked and what didn't. At the end of the season they then met with each director to discuss their plans for 2016 and the future, part of this discussion was that each of the directors stood down from their position and so removed the financial responsibility hanging over our heads ( my wife was very pleased with this change) and then joined the Tigers management team. At no time during my meeting in November do I remember being given "the bullet" infact Gerry was very pleased with my performance during 2015. So I would suggest you remove your offending and factually incorrect post before "lettera procurators legal" arrive.

 

But just to cover myself to make sure that I have got my facts correct as the meeting was 4 months ago I will ask Gerry for his recollections tomorrow night when we are out for dinner and if I have got any of my facts wrong I will come back on and correct them.

 

Regards

 

Ian "Snapper" Adam

 

My tongue in cheek comment was based on the In brief article in this weeks Star.

 

As "getting the bullet" is everyday slang for "dispensing with the service of", I'm sorry that this phrase so upset you.

 

The article includes the phrases:-

 

"rather than chasing everyone out straight away, they took time to establish the correct business model for themselves"

 

"There was always going to be changes..."

 

"Possibly the biggest casualty from the change is outgoing promoter Colin Hamilton""

 

From the above, does it not imply that the five ex directors did not take the initiative to step down voluntarily?

 

If you are saying that in your case, you did submit your resignation beforehand, rather than be advised of this by the Club Owners, then I accept that my interpretation of the article was incorrect.

Edited April 1, 2016 by cyclone

[Fenway Bleachers]

Maybe the Fun Enema hierarchy just took there time to get things moving?!!

[george.m]

 

My tongue in cheek comment was based on the In brief article in this weeks Star.

 

As "getting the bullet" is everyday slang for "dispensing with the service of", I'm sorry that this phrase so upset you.

 

The article includes the phrases:-

 

"rather than chasing everyone out straight away, they took time to establish the correct business model for themselves"

 

"There was always going to be changes..."

 

"Possibly the biggest casualty from the change is outgoing promoter Colin Hamilton""

 

From the above, does it not imply that the five ex directors did not take the initiative to step down voluntarily?

 

If you are saying that in your case, you did submit your resignation beforehand, rather than be advised of this by the Club Owners, then I accept that my interpretation of the article was incorrect.

For a poster so consistently demanding of accuracy in others, this is now a convenient suggestion that ambiguity and the personal interpretation of others statements as fact is acceptable when it suits. I wonder why?

 

1. You suggest leaving a company is down to "getting the bullet" or "resignation" ... conveniently omitting - mutual consent.

2. "From the above, does it not imply that the five ex directors did not take the initiative to step down voluntarily?" - Have you forgotten to post something proceeding this as your conclusion has no connection nor logic whatsoever.

3. "Biggest casualty" could be interpreted as his contribution to the club.

 

Now, as you're making apologies to other posters, what about Red Panda's?

Or does she need to threaten legal action before you backtrack?

Edited April 1, 2016 by george.m

[damosuzuki]

ROLL ON SUNDAY

[Fenway Bleachers]

Yes please.......with some bacon and brown sauce ......

 

 

See you there weather permitting!

[speed ace]

Don't think a particular meeting thread is the place to debate the price or spectator facilities.

 

Think tyretrax is spot on with his point about spectator facilities, and on the whole these are excellent, but the primary reason for attending is to spectate and view the racing.

It's not so much the second tier on the back straight not being high enough, it's more the front of the front their needing to be lower, as viewing from the pits would then be affected.

 

As for the cost, it's all very well our friends from down south saying its not expensive, think the need to remember everything is relative, i.e.wage rates and house prices from area to area.

 

When this take over took place much was made about them being local lads and wanting to put something back into the local community.

Given the economics of the area I don't think many of the locals are being catered for.(no disrespect intended)

[MD]

As for the cost, it's all very well our friends from down south saying its not expensive, think the need to remember everything is relative, i.e.wage rates and house prices from area to area.

 

 

In all likelihood people down south with the exception of London and surrounding counties are likely to have less expendable cash than those up here in equivalent jobs IMO. In that scenario wages aren't that much higher but house prices most certainly are, whether buying or renting.

[speed ace]

In all likelihood people down south with the exception of London and surrounding counties are likely to have less expendable cash than those up here in equivalent jobs IMO. In that scenario wages aren't that much higher but house prices most certainly are, whether buying or renting.

 

Valid point, I should think no matter where you are in the country, people will always find a preferred way to use what disposable income they have on what suits them, it's a matter of choice, and it's nice to have speedway as one of those choices.

 

Still believe there are a larger number of highly paid jobs down south (and corresponding pensions)all be it in certain areas, anyway my point was really about the immediate local area.

 

There was much talk of getting the local teenagers who fly around on motorbikes out side the stadium interested in becoming the next world champion, but I fail to see this happening if they can't afford to see what's going on inside the stadium.

I'm not saying let them in free, and I know a lot has been done to promote the sport with discounted or free tickets, but it's got to be affordable for them to return, regularly.

 

Infact if you really look at virtualy every area there is speedway their are very few in prosperous areas.

[Fingersfin]

Interested to here your proposed pricing structure Speed Ace.

[speed ace]

Just wrote a massive rant that got lost

 

Extent child pricing to 18

 

Discounts for unemployed maybe

 

Anyone who attended on some sort of promotion last year won't be expecting the price jump if they attend now,

 

It has already been pointed out how fairly priced family ticked are.

 

But by and large I don't have an issue with current one, my issue is, if you want to fill the stadium people need to be able to see what they have paid for not another spectators back.

Edited May 3, 2016 by speed ace

[Fingersfin]

One change I found interesting during the close season is that Coventry abandoned concessions presumably to keep a lid on their top line price. A fascinating precedent.

 

Another option that friends have ventured is too categorise your meetings based on the expected challenge of the opposition. Enabling attractive pricing for certain meetings.

 

I am sure the owners are aware of the back straight issue and it will be resolved at some point. Personally still pinching myself at how lucky we are.

Edited May 3, 2016 by Fingersfin

[george.m]

All of us want to pay as little as we can for as much as we can get in return. It's human nature.

 

However, Apple products are over priced, yet they enjoy high market share.

 

The promotion have estimated what they think they can charge.

 

If it's wrong they'll change it.

If it works then it's well done to them.

 

Apologies for repeating this, but the total revenue stream is not all about the total attendance times the entry price.

Edited May 3, 2016 by george.m

[speed ace]

but the total revenue stream is not all about the total attendance times the entry price.

 

That's why supermarket have loss leaders(to get you in) and sweets at kids eye level and tills (so the kids make you spend more)

 

Same as speedway, get as many families as you can in, hence the pricing, then the kids want jungle balls,sweets,burgers,juice. And already you've made more money and getting the next generation hooked.

[Tsunami]

That's why supermarket have loss leaders(to get you in) and sweets at kids eye level and tills (so the kids make you spend more)

 

Same as speedway, get as many families as you can in, hence the pricing, then the kids want jungle balls,sweets,burgers,juice. And already you've made more money and getting the next generation hooked.

Only if you own the stadium.

[george.m]

Apart from a few Embra fans on the wind up the majority of posters on BSF get the maths of running a club.

 

The promotion won't make a profit out of running speedway at Glasgow. They're no mugs they knew that after due diligence. They'd do well to make an operating profit never mind an overall profit.

 

Ashfield means more to them than profit and speedway.

 

For speedway it's long term security.

That means reducing operating loss.

 

At the pre season evening they said they only made profit in 3 meetings in 2015. Just 3.

 

It's about keeping sponsors happy too.

And that's about the quality of the audience (target market) not just quantity.

Edited May 3, 2016 by george.m

[speed ace]

Didn't mean to sound condescending regarding other clubs not owning their own stadiums, was only really referring to Glasgow at this point, although it is necessary for all clubs to encourage kids, Berwick being a fine example and a club that currently I would say are struggling with crowd levels.

 

Didn't mean to sound ungrateful either regarding the Glasgow owners, and I car understand your quality remark but perhaps a longer "introductory period" was required, that said they really did push the boat out last year on promotion and advertising.

 

Unfortunately speedway seems to be a love or hate sport, lots of those who attend for the first time may not return, not because they had a bad experience, but just because it's not for them,you may have to kiss lots of frogs before you find a prince

Only if you own the stadium.

Apart from a few Embra fans on the wind up the majority of posters on BSF get the maths of running a club.

The promotion won't make a profit out of running speedway at Glasgow. They're no mugs they knew that after due diligence. They'd do well to make an operating profit never mind an overall profit.

Ashfield means more to them than profit and speedway.

For speedway it's long term security.

That means reducing operating loss.

At the pre season evening they said they only made profit in 3 meetings in 2015. Just 3.

It's about keeping sponsors happy too.

And that's about the quality of the audience (target market) not just quantity.

Edited May 3, 2016 by speed ace

[New era Panthers]

One change I found interesting during the close season is that Coventry abandoned concessions presumably to keep a lid on their top line price. A fascinating precedent.

 

Another option that friends have ventured is too categorise your meetings based on the expected challenge of the opposition. Enabling attractive pricing for certain meetings.

 

I am sure the owners are aware of the back straight issue and it will be resolved at some point. Personally still pinching myself at how lucky we are.

Obviously Mick Horton is not that bothered about the hardcore of supporters who live off pensions and this sort of action might come back to haunt him but if he feels it's the right way to go good luck to him , personally I wouldn't support any team he has anything to do with and I wouldn't blame supporters who drifted away to support Leicester Lions its only 20 miles away

[Shadders]

Yes, the promoters are well off and have spent a shed load on Glasgow Speedway, but that doesn't mean they want to make a loss. Pretty sure they've worked their figures out very carefully.

[tyretrax]

Agree with speed ace about using meeting threads for another subject, but when someone else raised the point I wasn't going to start a new thread. It does annoy me when a thread goes off in a completely different tangent. Oops maybe I should have posted that in the "What annoys me" thread.

[New era Panthers]

Agree with speed ace about using meeting threads for another subject, but when someone else raised the point I wasn't going to start a new thread. It does annoy me when a thread goes off in a completely different tangent. Oops maybe I should have posted that in the "What annoys me" thread.

Or you try Coatbridge v Paisley thread