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It is a cracking top 4 but im happy enough with my teams top 4 against them. King v Lawson. Covatti v Barker. Kerr v Summers. Risager v Worrall. Good match ups but our 5th rider Sargeant is better than Lunna.

 

All being said though with Barker and Worrall (ex witches) , Summers who goes well at our place and Lawson who is a bit hit and miss we may well struggle to beat them at home.

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It is a cracking top 4 but im happy enough with my teams top 4 against them. King v Lawson. Covatti v Barker. Kerr v Summers. Risager v Worrall. Good match ups but our 5th rider Sargeant is better than Lunna.

 

All being said though with Barker and Worrall (ex witches) , Summers who goes well at our place and Lawson who is a bit hit and miss we may well struggle to beat them at home.

Yes James is currently the more accomplished rider than Nike Lunna think everyone was sorry to see James go but we couldn't fit him in hope James continues to improve with the Witches really nice lad you have got yourselves a good un.

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Glasgow have assembled a strong top 4. Garcia had a good attitude when he guested for Edinburgh in the LC final and could become a fans favourite with his never say die attitude. Bit of a risk with the bottom 3 but they all should improve. Re RItchie Worrall unavailable on Fridays if BV riding. Could be a big ask for reserves. Need top 3 to be on game but surely 2016 a shoe in for top 3 finish at least. Saying that Ipswich were experts favourites for title last year.

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It is a cracking top 4 but im happy enough with my teams top 4 against them. King v Lawson. Covatti v Barker. Kerr v Summers. Risager v Worrall. Good match ups but our 5th rider Sargeant is better than Lunna.

 

 

 

I think that is a fair comparison. The response to the Ipswich team was luke warm whereas the Glasgow septet have been given the wow factor.

 

King is better than Lawson, Covatti and Barker are both difficult to judge, will Covatti maintain his form from this year and will Barker return to the form of a few years ago?

 

Kerr v Summers you'd have to favour Summers there. Summers has been around a while now but this year he's really kicked on to be an excellent heatleader. Kerr has the obvious question mark because of his injury but he says he has no recollection of the accident and it hasn't affected him mentally.

 

It's a wait and see with him but if he picks up where he left off pre injury then there's no reason why he can't progress like Summers did this year.

 

Very little between Worrall and Risager as the averages suggest.

 

I agree that I'd prefer Sargeant over Lunna. Sargeant didn't want the season to end and was racking up some cricket scores in the closing weeks.

 

I'd have to give Ipswich the edge at Reserve too. I think Castagna is a snip on 3.33 and as I said when Ipswich announced their team, I'm very surprised Sheffield didn't include him on that figure! Have they made another error similar to not retaining Covatti this year?

 

Overall you'd have to favour Glasgow's septet as the safer bet as Ipswich have one or two more question marks but Ipswich could potentially be very good also.

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He will be bringing all his own equipment over with him this year as he used borrowed bikes this year

And you think the bikes he has in Argentina to beat all them big star riders will be any good? I'd imagine that the bikes used in Argentina by any rider are a bit rubbish for the simple reason there are no top riders over there to sell their old stuff to the riders below them. Sound more like PR bull to me.

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You get someone to get some decent equipment under Coty, and you have gat a real battler there

 

if the good people of berwick thought they had a good rider on their hands, why didn't they find him a sponsor or look out for a quality pre owned speedway bike . i have no doubt he has something , but why oh why did no one come forward to sort out some decent equipment ?

glasgow may well provide something like that . as stated , he is bringing his own stutff over next season . why not last season .?

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He will be bringing all his own equipment over with him this year as he used borrowed bikes this year

His bike was not borrowed, he bought it from Ash Birks, which is a lot better than the kit they use in Argentina.

Should that not be the riders job though? Instead of relying on others to be competitive. If hes coming over here for a team place, he should at least ensure he has decent tools for the job.

In part yes, but surely it is the promotions responsibilty to ensure he has, and not pass the book. If he needs help then the promoters should be looking for someone to help.

 

if the good people of berwick thought they had a good rider on their hands, why didn't they find him a sponsor or look out for a quality pre owned speedway bike . i have no doubt he has something , but why oh why did no one come forward to sort out some decent equipment ?

glasgow may well provide s,

Damned good question, why indeed did they not find someone.. I am pretty sure Coty was in their team until the new rule on your No7 rider. What ever he does I wish him luck, he came over here on his own, bought himself a van, and got his own equipment with no help. I helped him with eyewear, but there is only so much you can do.

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if the good people of berwick thought they had a good rider on their hands, why didn't they find him a sponsor or look out for a quality pre owned speedway bike . i have no doubt he has something , but why oh why did no one come forward to sort out some decent equipment ?

glasgow may well provide something like that . as stated , he is bringing his own stutff over next season . why not last season .?

 

I would assume because the economy in this country is on its arse and the people who do invest in the sport typically want to see a club thrive rather than an individual rider?

 

Garcia being a case and example, he doesn’t race for Berwick anymore. It seems the investment that was sourced (by the promotion) has helped the club continue to run, that seems a far more logical way to spend outside investment. I wouldn’t just apply that logic to Berwick, it would apply across the board, other than at Glasgow, if Glasgow can afford to pay for bikes, vans, flights etc, more power to them, but they aren’t really a decent water mark in terms of what most other clubs in the country can currently give riders.

 

Like every other rider thathas chosen to be a speedway rider surely it is on the rider to seek out investment anyway? I actually almost despise the attitude that riders should be given hand-outs, its comparable to saying people should actively seek to sponsor employees of cinemas and bowling alleys, as evidently they people work in those places for “your entertainment” and “risk their lives so you can watch films”….they actually don’t, they are employees who have consciously chosen that profession and are already paid an agreed salary by their employer, just like, a speedway rider.

 

If a rider cannot afford the career of a speedway rider (not saying that is the case with Garcia just a general reference) there is a really, simple, cheap, cost effective solution, don’t become a speedway rider because it is really clear before you even decide to do it that is going to cost an absolute fortune.

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Garcia bought bikes from Ashley Birks this year so his equipment was fairly good i would think, regardless of what machinery he is on he isn't very good you could put him on Chris Holder bikes and he would still be very poor thats why he dropped from a 5.00 average to a 3.00 average and his official average I'm guessing is a bout a 2.00 at best.

 

My point been that if you put Richard Lawson on a Garcia bike and Garcia on a Lawson bike, Lawson would still get 10 point plus at home and garcia would still get 1,2 points at best.

 

so If Glasgow are buying him all sorts of bikes, equipment surely there is a British lad who could have that investment and be better than Garcia,

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Coty Garcia bought one bike - 2013 specification - from Ash Birks, and that was his only bike throughout his time at Berwick. He worked miracles, on a very tight budget, keeping it going.

 

Given a full season, and up-to-date equipment, he will serve Glasgow very well. At home in Argentina he scores on a par with, and often beats, Nico Covatti.

 

I expect him to return to Shielfield in 2017 with a CMA between 4.5 and 5.00.

 

While it isn't important in the scoring stakes, he is also a very bright, polite lad. Living locally, he will make many friends, as was the case last season.

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Garcia bought bikes from Ashley Birks this year so his equipment was fairly good i would think, regardless of what machinery he is on he isn't very good you could put him on Chris Holder bikes and he would still be very poor thats why he dropped from a 5.00 average to a 3.00 average and his official average I'm guessing is a bout a 2.00 at best.

 

 

 

2.43 according to the final PL GSA

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Like every other rider thathas chosen to be a speedway rider surely it is on the rider to seek out investment anyway? I actually almost despise the attitude that riders should be given hand-outs, its comparable to saying people should actively seek to sponsor employees of cinemas and bowling alleys, as evidently they people work in those places for your entertainment and risk their lives so you can watch films.they actually dont, they are employees who have consciously chosen that profession and are already paid an agreed salary by their employer, just like, a speedway rider.

 

If a rider cannot afford the career of a speedway rider (not saying that is the case with Garcia just a general reference) there is a really, simple, cheap, cost effective solution, dont become a speedway rider because it is really clear before you even decide to do it that is going to cost an absolute fortune.

There are two things in speedway that annoy me more than anything else. One is people cheering when a rider falls. I've almost come to blows a few times over that. The other is the "if you think you can do better, try it yourself" brigade. Nobody forces anyone to ride a speedway bike. Many of em wouldn't be racing at all without the likes of us paying through the gate to watch them "risk their lives". Edited by Shads
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Despite all the people having a wee dig at our side , I'm perfectly happy with it . We have a nine point man at number one and three supporting heat leaders all capable of improving on their starting average . Aaron was our rider of the season last year and I expect him to carry on where he left off . Ben Barker and Richie Worrall are far better riders than their averages suggest and both ride Ashfield well .

As for the three other lads , Garcia and Lunna have only had one season over here , so who knows what kind of improvement might be in them and Danny Ayres seems to be a late starter at speedway , but his job is to beat the opposition number 7 rider , if he can do that on a regular basis , then all well and good .

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