phillipsr Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Thats not robbed its bad luck, he also still had the best gate in the semi and seem to bottle it! Not for the first time Edited October 27, 2015 by phillipsr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thats not robbed its bad luck, he also still had the best gate in the semi and seem to bottle it! Not for the first time In his first year of GP's any rider will lose out if they have the chosen gate as has been proved over the years. Did they all bottle it as well then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Always makes I laugh it dos when these bloody keyboard warriors talk about a rider bottling it, when they would crap themselves if they sat on a machine. Good news...the steel girders for the new stadium have been delivered to the old park n' ride car park. Can anyone post a few pics of the new track taking shape?Only five months to the start of the 2016 season so the new back straight bogs should have the footings in by now. I hear they are scraping the smelly moldy green gunk off the walls of the old one and plastering in the new ones so the old folks can reminisce. There will be no bogs on the new back-straight, we are hoping the old listed building can be transferred block-by-block to the new site. The green gunk was removed by English Heritage last year. Edited October 27, 2015 by haydon hat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Always makes I laugh it dos when these bloody keyboard warriors talk about a rider bottling it, when they would crap themselves if they sat on a machine. Good news...the steel girders for the new stadium have been delivered to the old park n' ride car park. There will be no bogs on the new back-straight, we are hoping the old listed building can be transferred block-by-block to the new site. The green gunk was removed by English Heritage last year. They better make sure they select the right girders as the ones stored there were for the GWR overhead rail electrification, the scheme that was estimated at £750 million and is now going to cost £2.5 Billion. If they get them mixed up the girders will be put round the track with overhead electric cables, mind you they could hang the track lighting off them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Always makes I laugh it dos when these bloody keyboard warriors talk about a rider bottling it, when they would crap themselves if they sat on a machine. Good news...the steel girders for the new stadium have been delivered to the old park n' ride car park. There will be no bogs on the new back-straight, we are hoping the old listed building can be transferred block-by-block to the new site. The green gunk was removed by English Heritage last year. Can't the green gunk be splattered over the walls in the new bogs? Sentimental value and all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) They better make sure they select the right girders as the ones stored there were for the GWR overhead rail electrification, the scheme that was estimated at £750 million and is now going to cost £2.5 Billion. If they get them mixed up the girders will be put round the track with overhead electric cables, mind you they could hang the track lighting off them. Hopefully they wont get them mixed up, and they will be labelled correctly. The speedway track is a bit wider than the railtrack so there could be problems if they don't get it right, and the cost of 2.5 billion would have to be paid by Tezza Russell! Can't the green gunk be splattered over the walls in the new bogs? Sentimental value and all that? As I said it was removed by English heritage so ask them? More of a concern is who is on duty up there now sidney has left? Edited October 27, 2015 by haydon hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thats not robbed its bad luck, he also still had the best gate in the semi and seem to bottle it! Not for the first time Miles in front originally before being penalised by someone else's action...that is robbed in my book especially when Woffinden wasn't even that relevant to anything other than scupper Kildemand's original track position by being 'careless'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Miles in front originally before being penalised by someone else's action...that is robbed in my book especially when Woffinden wasn't even that relevant to anything other than scupper Kildemand's original track position by being 'careless'....Whoever missed out between Holder and PK will get a pick, so not the end of the world! Though there is no reason why PK couldn't have won the rerun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Whoever missed out between Holder and PK will get a pick, so not the end of the world! Though there is no reason why PK couldn't have won the rerun. Agreed didnt really matter much.....as for the re-run the two who gated in front were the reason he didnt win the re-run..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Miles in front originally before being penalised by someone else's action...that is robbed in my book especially when Woffinden wasn't even that relevant to anything other than scupper Kildemand's original track position by being 'careless'.... Yes but their were other GPs where the luck went his way (Horsens?) that's part of the rationale for a GP - the luck evens itself out most of the time. Ultimately he was lucky to be ninth because if Hampel hadn't broken his leg he wouldn't have ridden more than a couple of GPs. However he clearly deserves a wildcard for 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Can't see him in Britain as he's sure to get a wildcard GP pick after being robbed of it on merit. Not sure how he was robbed on merit? Wasn't he handed a wildcard through to the final of the SGP challenger and still failed to qualify. Maybe if he hadn't laid the bike down so much in the GP or got excluded he would have had enough points to make top 8. Holder deserved his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Yes but their were other GPs where the luck went his way (Horsens?) that's part of the rationale for a GP - the luck evens itself out most of the time. Ultimately he was lucky to be ninth because if Hampel hadn't broken his leg he wouldn't have ridden more than a couple of GPs. However he clearly deserves a wildcard for 2016 For heavens sake i am not questioning anything other than someones opinion about being robbed or just ill luck ...merely stating i think he was robbed other than just bad or ill luck...if were merely talking luck we could go and on and on and on and on....if his engine went is that luck?...no probably poor engine prep ...if he just fell off on the last corner when winning is that luck?...probably not if on his own....Hampel was robbed by the actions of Sundstrom as was i think PK by the fact Tai slid off...the fact (as L.C.G kindly pointed out) that he did not win the re-run is largely irrelevant but initially he was robbed...personally i couldnt give a rats doodahs if he came 8th 9th or whatever in fact i care little but I feel he was a little r****d...there you go if it offends anyone i will use censorship from now on ..as for the nominated spots i agree he and Hampel should be in but knowing the way Monster Energy.....oops i mean B.S.I work anything can happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just as long as there was no Monster and Red Bull conspiracy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 For heavens sake i am not questioning anything other than someones opinion about being robbed or just ill luck ...merely stating i think he was robbed other than just bad or ill luck...if were merely talking luck we could go and on and on and on and on....if his engine went is that luck?...no probably poor engine prep ...if he just fell off on the last corner when winning is that luck?...probably not if on his own....Hampel was robbed by the actions of Sundstrom as was i think PK by the fact Tai slid off...the fact (as L.C.G kindly pointed out) that he did not win the re-run is largely irrelevant but initially he was robbed...personally i couldnt give a rats doodahs if he came 8th 9th or whatever in fact i care little but I feel he was a little r****d...there you go if it offends anyone i will use censorship from now on ..as for the nominated spots i agree he and Hampel should be in but knowing the way Monster Energy.....oops i mean B.S.I work anything can happen To say he was robbed makes out like Tai fell off on purpose just to get Holder which is beyond laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 To say he was robbed makes out like Tai fell off on purpose just to get Holder which is beyond laughable I haven't seen that written or suggested anywhere except for in your own post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I haven't seen that written or suggested anywhere except for in your own post.To say he was robbed means someone took the chance anyway from him, who was that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 To say he was robbed means someone took the chance anyway from him, who was that then? If you choose to read it like that then that is down to you. In my eyes it just means that whoever stated that he was 'robbed' feels as though PK was a little unlucky that the original staging of the race needed to be stopped. Not that there is a conspiracy to keep him out or that anybody fell off or stayed down on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 If you choose to read it like that then that is down to you. In my eyes it just means that whoever stated that he was 'robbed' feels as though PK was a little unlucky that the original staging of the race needed to be stopped. Not that there is a conspiracy to keep him out or that anybody fell off or stayed down on purpose.Fair enough I know a few people have joked elsewhere that Tai was helping Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 For heavens sake i am not questioning anything other than someones opinion about being robbed or just ill luck ...merely stating i think he was robbed other than just bad or ill luck...if were merely talking luck we could go and on and on and on and on....if his engine went is that luck?...no probably poor engine prep ...if he just fell off on the last corner when winning is that luck?...probably not if on his own....Hampel was robbed by the actions of Sundstrom as was i think PK by the fact Tai slid off...the fact (as L.C.G kindly pointed out) that he did not win the re-run is largely irrelevant but initially he was robbed...personally i couldnt give a rats doodahs if he came 8th 9th or whatever in fact i care little but I feel he was a little r****d...there you go if it offends anyone i will use censorship from now on ..as for the nominated spots i agree he and Hampel should be in but knowing the way Monster Energy.....oops i mean B.S.I work anything can happen Calm down dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Maybe double up with Somerset in using there track ??/ You can tell it's getting close to Halloween, the trolls are out in force. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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