SteveLyric2 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Well to be strictly accurate, Hans is the only rider from the BSPA HL list that we have signed so far!! With our final 2 coming from that same list according to MF. Shamek won't be on the list as he didn't ride EL in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Grow up the pair of you Na he can't help it mate, he's infatuated with me. He follows me round the forum, I think that's called trolling, but I do also think its a Poole thing ya know.... Not bad for a part time Ippo fan, who clearly thinks he's got the right to pull our club and management to pieces, even though he's never met them. Sad really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 What? Like Buckowski? Isn't it those riders returning with an average of 6.50 or over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shamek won't be on the list as he didn't ride EL in 2015. Â Shamek WILL be on the HL list, it's already been declared riders over 6.50 who didn't ride here in we 15th will automatically join it. Â Isn't it those riders returning with an average of 6.50 or over? Yes it is. Â Przemyslaw Pawlicki at 6.75 would be classed as a heat leader as would any new or returning rider with an average in excess of 6.00 Â Â It's 6.50 not 6.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 New riders coming in on a 6.50 are classed as heat leaders  Riders returning after missing a season that have a average over 6 also become heat leaders.   So Leon Madsen 6.10 would return as a heat leader for example and certainly a rider on 6.75 would too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 New riders coming in on a 6.50 are classed as heat leaders Riders returning after missing a season that have a average over 6 also become heat leaders. So Leon Madsen 6.10 would return as a heat leader for example and certainly a rider on 6.75 would too In all honesty someone like Madsen should be in the HL list I agree but then so should Buzz!! Only 6.50 been mentioned as any yard stick so far. Clearly riders on less than 6.50 are already proving to be a grey area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just as a matter of interest exactly which Poole assets rode for other teams this season? Also which have been signed for 2016? This may have a bearing on why some promoters are always keen to agree with Matt Ford. 2015  Josh Grajczonek at Belle Vue  Greg Walasek at Leicester  Bjarne Pedersen at Leicester (well....for a couple of minutes)  Darcy Ward at Swindon  2016  Just KK at Coventry so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckettlion Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Hope the Walasek at Leicester continues in 2016... he was excellent for us (when fit). Bjarne on the other hand? I'd rather ride with 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 New riders coming in on a 6.50 are classed as heat leaders  Riders returning after missing a season that have a average over 6 also become heat leaders.   So Leon Madsen 6.10 would return as a heat leader for example and certainly a rider on 6.75 would too So why isn't Buckowski a heat leader then, i think there is a flaw in your figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 So why isn't Buckowski a heat leader then, i think there is a flaw in your figures.Exactly. Has to be 6.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Exactly. Has to be 6.50. Ambiguous. The AGM statement: 'Heat-leader standard riders graded into a list – maximum of three per club. This is to deal with distorted averages created by race format. Any new non-British rider assessed at 6.5 or above to join this list.' I cannot tell if this refers to riders completely new to the EL or those not riding here in 2015. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 It also mentions "assessed" which wouldn't apply to buzz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Ambiguous. The AGM statement: 'Heat-leader standard riders graded into a list – maximum of three per club. This is to deal with distorted averages created by race format. Any new non-British rider assessed at 6.5 or above to join this list.' I cannot tell if this refers to riders completely new to the EL or those not riding here in 2015.  As an Professional Project Engineer it was always expected of me to think logically. When there is a problem you find the cause of it.  It is quite clear, from the statement above, the BSPA are aware of the problem caused by the race format, in that it creates distorted averages. But instead of dealing with the cause of the problem, they decide to compound it further by making more concessions to counteract it. Amazing.....  It would be like making a tray to catch leaking water rather than mending the leak........... EVENTUALLY, the tray becomes full and is deemed as useless........  And that's the same with this sport, When they decide to do something about it, all the fans will have gone...... ( all those except Poole that is !!! ) Edited November 30, 2015 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Don't worry so much GRW123, Chairman Buster will sort it all out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Don't worry so much GRW123, Chairman Buster will sort it all out!! What has the magical Buster sorted out up to now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Sorry FB, I forgot the winking emoticon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Sorry FB, I forgot the winking emoticon!! My reply was a jokey comment, i wouldn't want to upset Buster fans!! Â Isn't it about time Holder and Watt were announced, there seems to be a hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 My reply was a jokey comment, i wouldn't want to upset Buster fans!! Â Isn't it about time Holder and Watt were announced, there seems to be a hitch. Matt did say within the next week and that was last thurs/fri?? 😌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Â As an Professional Project Engineer it was always expected of me to think logically. When there is a problem you find to the cause of it. Â It is quite clear, from the statement above, the BSPA are aware of the problem caused by the race format, in that it creates distorted averages. But instead of dealing with the cause of the problem, they decide to compound it further by making more concessions to counteract it. Amazing..... Â It would be like making a tray to catch leaking water rather than mending the leak........... EVENTUALLY, the tray becomes full and is deemed as useless........ Â Â Just drill a hole in the tray to let the water out and put a bigger tray underneath it. Everything is fine - BSPA thinking 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 My reply was a jokey comment, i wouldn't want to upset Buster fans!! Â Isn't it about time Holder and Watt were announced, there seems to be a hitch. Matt has his sponsors' Xmas gathering scheduled for this weekend so there should be the announcement before that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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