Red Panda Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 please read what you just wrote there as it makes no sense. so you are saying for example that a rider riding at 6 can average 8 and should be on the heat leader list ahead of someone who rode at number 5 all season and managed 7? It blatantly obvious to all and sundry that Buck should have been a heat leader Re read it.......................what I am saying is that everyone is saying that Davey Watt should be a second string despite attaining a 7.19 average yet are yet the same people are saying Buzz should be a heat leader despite having a 6.48 average which was attained two years ago.................if you take Clive's point into account that Davey was a number one in 2014 and spent part of last season at heat leader at various times then sorry it should be the other way round............ If they are taking averages from 2014 season for riders who did not ride here last season then surely the averages of those who did ride here in 2014 should also be taken into consideration.............. Unless they ever publish the criteria we will never know how are why certain riders are on the so called list and why some or not..........either way if the list is published then there are going to be people who think certain riders should not be on there and some that are not should be........... FFS get over it.............if Buzz does not meet the criteria then its not Poole's fault it is the fault of those who made the rules.............. RP Yeo but he wouldn't be allowed a team spot then, plus he has no ambition. No ambition?????????????? Never heard so much rubbish in my life.................. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 FFS get over it.............if Buzz does not meet the criteria then its not Poole's fault it is the fault of those who made the rules.............. RP The fault is that Buzz SHOULD meet the criteria and the only odd thing is that he isn't classed as a heat leader. Last time Lindback rode here he averaged less than 5, would the promoters not class him as a HL too? The fault lies with the promoters not Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The fault is that Buzz SHOULD meet the criteria and the only odd thing is that he isn't classed as a heat leader. Last time Lindback rode here he averaged less than 5, would the promoters not class him as a HL too? The fault lies with the promoters not Poole. As I said it is the fault of those who made the rules and decided who should meet what criteria they set............. One other question however and this is for SCB................you keep saying about Danny King being on this so called list..............if you have seen it (and I know you posted what you thought it should be) would you care to tell us who else is on there and what the criteria is.............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 As I said it is the fault of those who made the rules and decided who should meet what criteria they set............. One other question however and this is for SCB................you keep saying about Danny King being on this so called list..............if you have seen it (and I know you posted what you thought it should be) would you care to tell us who else is on there and what the criteria is.............. RP Some riders have been declared as heat leaders, assuming the promotions know what they are doing! As far as bees go if you check the team from the statement below I believe it's in average order. For king not to be a heat leader one of Garrity or Woryna will have to be. http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.3404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 If people are of the opinion that Buzz should have been on the HL list due to his 2014 scoring, then by the same token Davey Watt should also be on the HL list as he spent the majority of 2014 as a Number 1!!! I dont know how the hell they have worked out who should be on the list or not but i do think that if Poole sign Watt then the debate will fizzle out re peoples general opinions of which one should be on what list as they sort of cancel each other out.But if they sign the likes of Pawlick the the debate will go on forever as the league as a competition will be over before we start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 As I said it is the fault of those who made the rules and decided who should meet what criteria they set............. One other question however and this is for SCB................you keep saying about Danny King being on this so called list..............if you have seen it (and I know you posted what you thought it should be) would you care to tell us who else is on there and what the criteria is.............. RP He doesn't know RP, he's just guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 As I said it is the fault of those who made the rules and decided who should meet what criteria they set............. One other question however and this is for SCB................you keep saying about Danny King being on this so called list..............if you have seen it (and I know you posted what you thought it should be) would you care to tell us who else is on there and what the criteria is.............. RP The Coventry promotion have confirmed that KK, Harris and King are heat leaders. Wolves have confirmed Kylmakorpi, Bech and Lindgren are heat leaders. Ford/Poole have apparently announced that Buzz is not on the list. After that it's guesses unless anyone can confirm what promoters have released elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The Coventry promotion have confirmed that KK, Harris and King are heat leaders. Wolves have confirmed Kylmakorpi, Bech and Lindgren are heat leaders. Ford/Poole have apparently announced that Buzz is not on the list. After that it's guesses unless anyone can confirm what promoters have released elsewhere. Not seen a statement confirming from bees, other than the one I quoted with riders seemingly in average order. Not that that confirms it it really can't be anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The Coventry promotion have confirmed that KK, Harris and King are heat leaders. Wolves have confirmed Kylmakorpi, Bech and Lindgren are heat leaders. Ford/Poole have apparently announced that Buzz is not on the list. After that it's guesses unless anyone can confirm what promoters have released elsewhere. They may be heat leaders in the Coventry line-up but were they all on the BSPA HL list?? You don't know any more than anyone else!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Neil Watson has categorically stated, and confirmed when asked they were the heat leaders. Fine if you don't want to believe him. It was also confirmed that we had 7.3(? Ish) left for a second string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 If people are of the opinion that Buzz should have been on the HL list due to his 2014 scoring, then by the same token Davey Watt should also be on the HL list as he spent the majority of 2014 as a Number 1!!!Really, you're smarter than that skidder. That's rp type logic.Buzzs average is based on 2014, hence what position he rode in 14 is relevant. Watt's average is from 15, hence where he rode in 14 is irrelevant I'd add that if a rider rode here last in 13 their average is not directly comparable Neil Watson has categorically stated, and confirmed when asked they were the heat leaders. Fine if you don't want to believe him. It was also confirmed that we had 7.3(? Ish) left for a second string. Exactly. And he stated that on the bsf on the Coventry thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Neil Watson has categorically stated, and confirmed when asked they were the heat leaders. Fine if you don't want to believe him. It was also confirmed that we had 7.3(? Ish) left for a second string. Calm Down, your getting your thong in a twist.. Darling.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Calm Down, your getting your thong in a twist.. Darling.. I answered a reasonable question in a polite manner. It's what most people do you moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) I answered a reasonable question in a polite manner. It's what most people do you moron. That's not how it sounded... And calling people names doesn't see you in a good light..... Edited November 28, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 That's not how it sounded... And calling people names doesn't see you in a good light..... You started it by calling him 'darling' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 You started it by calling him 'darling' Hardly name calling, come on Lis.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hardly name calling, come on Lis..no it isn't but then you called me a tw.t and to go play play with the traffic on another thread. So stop getting on your high horse when you get called something. You dish it out and cry like a big girls blouse if it's the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 That's not how it sounded... And calling people names doesn't see you in a good light..... Erm, you called him darling ? Are you really this thick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Erm, you called him darling ? Are you really this thick ? If you look back through his previous posts, I'm sure you'll agree that he is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 All this confusion, arguments and disagreements, is all the fault of the BSPA and their secret lists. Are they that paranoia of the problems they cause or what.... This sport wants harmony, excitement, anticipation, and above all fairness. We don't want the matches decided by deception or rule bending, or rules set to dubious scenarios, This attitude from the promoters is just driving fans away. and who can blame them........ Surely the Promoters can see the problems they're ideas are causing............. They can't be that thick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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