Theboss Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Some great signings by Poole and yet again Matt showing how team building should be done to the rest of the league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I think some of us myself included misinterpreted what he said, he said Bucko was going to start the season in a heat leader berth not that he has been signed as a heat leader.I find it strange Chris Holder and Davey Watt haven't been announced yet. certainly is confusing. He was either signed off the heat leader list or he wasn't . And if he wasn't on it then it's totally absurd. starting as a heat leader Only goes by average .If he is in the top 3 averages for Poole then he will start as a heat leader. Without this HL list no one knows! With regards Chris, I'm sure it's a formality. He is already listed as one of the GP boys riding in the EL in this week's speedway star. No they didn't FB, they did. The link is still there that confirms it. That could be because his average is above Hans? So Hans to start at second string? Hans is on the heat leader list and if he is 4th in the starting averages then will start season as second string. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 If I'm right in saying the Poole side currently has Holder, Andersen, Buczkowski, Kurtz, Newman and Ellis, that is shaping up as a formidable side. I can only see improvement (on last season) in all 6 of the aforementioned As I said, formidable side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 yes they did look on bournmouth echo ford says i quote '' he will start in a heat leader berth and i think he will remain there'' do your homework http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/14026378.Speedway__Buczkowski_makes_shock_Pirates_loan_switch/ Yes heat leader berth just means his average means he will be in a heat leader berth not signed as a heat leader from the heat leader list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Yes heat leader berth just means his average means he will be in a heat leader berth not signed as a heat leader from the heat leader list. If he is in the top 3 of the averages he will be in a heat leader role anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 If he is in the top 3 of the averages he will be in a heat leader role anyway. Yes that is what i said he will be in heat leader role because of his average but not signed as a heat leader from the list whereas Hans won't start as a heat leader but is a heat leader from the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 certainly is confusing. He was either signed off the heat leader list or he wasn't . And if he wasn't on it then it's totally absurd. starting as a heat leader Only goes by average .If he is in the top 3 averages for Poole then he will start as a heat leader. Without this HL list no one knows! With regards Chris, I'm sure it's a formality. He is already listed as one of the GP boys riding in the EL in this week's speedway star. FB, they did. The link is still there that confirms it. Hans is on the heat leader list and if he is 4th in the starting averages then will start season as second string. ...and all signed within the rules and with the full agreement of all EL promoters!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I like Davey but i hope we don't get him simply because him vs Craig Cook and Harris i'm backing them and i think we need someone with potential to perhaps be a part of Poole for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 ...and all signed within the rules and with the full agreement of all EL promoters!! ...and everything that's wrong with the EL! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Yes that is what i said he will be in heat leader role because of his average but not signed as a heat leader from the list whereas Hans won't start as a heat leader but is a heat leader from the list.Correct... The mistake many on here seem to make is to follow the basic mathematic principles which were devised by the Babylonian's and then subsequently adapted by learned Egyptians, Greeks, and in more recent history, renaissance scholars... These adaptations have been developed by many nations through the ensuing centuries and millennia to deliver the current numerical system the modern civilised world uses today.. Apart from of course the 'visionary' Speedway leaders who prefer to go against conventional belief and wisdom and uses its own system of numerical logic.. Stephen Hawking would be proud...😁 Edited November 27, 2015 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 ...and all signed within the rules and with the full agreement of all EL promoters!! No argument with that at all... Poole will have done well to build a team that basically allows for them to have four heatleaders.. I am told (on here) that this is all above board, so OK, fair enough.. What does dishearten me for the new season is that Leicester seem incapable of signing any heatleaders at all (that may be down to their Promoter's intransigence, I don't know), KL have lost NKI with remote hope of an adequate replacement and Coventry's team seems desperately weak. BV have a reasonable side but who knows what Swindon, Lakeside and Wolves may cobble together.. I just hope the 2016 EL is competitive, if not, it may struggle to maintain any lingering interest that I currently have - and I don't want that to happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) No argument with that at all... Poole will have done well to build a team that basically allows for them to have four heatleaders.. I am told (on here) that this is all above board, so OK, fair enough.. What does dishearten me for the new season is that Leicester seem incapable of signing any heatleaders at all (that may be down to their Promoter's intransigence, I don't know), KL have lost NKI with remote hope of an adequate replacement and Coventry's team seems desperately weak. BV have a reasonable side but who knows what Swindon, Lakeside and Wolves may cobble together.. I just hope the 2016 EL is competitive, if not, it may struggle to maintain any lingering interest that I currently have - and I don't want that to happen Im sorry you feel that way mate. but what's the answer to the problem ? You are never going to get all the big boys back no matter what you do, threy are very happy with their lots in Poland Sweden and the GP's, when they get paid, and the majority of clubs just couldn't afford them, without a massive hike in admission prices.. Edited November 27, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Im sorry you feel that way mate. but what's the answer to the problem ? You are never going to get all the big boys back no matter what you do, threy are very happy with their lots in Poland Sweden and the GP's, when they get paid, and the majority of clubs just couldn't afford them, without a massive hike in admission prices.. What a load of rubbish as lots of riders have had problems getting paid in both Sweden & Poland. Yet another thing you got wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 What a load of rubbish as lots of riders have had problems getting paid in both Sweden & Poland. Yet another thing you got wrong. That's what I said. Read the post.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Obviously he isn't on the list because he didn't ride here last season and he has a average below 6.5. That must be the criteria which like the heat leader list hasn't been published. i don't think promoters help themselves by keeping these things secret. It could be said there is a reason to publish the heat leader list when all riders have been signed but there is no reason why the criteria cannot be published. He rode here last season, Hans is a lower average and he is on the list. but in 2014 the same heat format was used, so makes no sense for him (or any other such rider) not to be classed as a HL. It's an utter farce, and to be clear i don't blame Poole, but all the other idiots who approved this. The only thing which would balance it out is if Poole sign Watt, as IMHO he should not be on a HL list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 That's what I said. Read the post.. Fair play & apologies for me being a numpty😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Fair play & apologies for me being a numpty Not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) but in 2014 the same heat format was used, so makes no sense for him (or any other such rider) not to be classed as a HL. It's an utter farce, and to be clear i don't blame Poole, but all the other idiots who approved this. The only thing which would balance it out is if Poole sign Watt, as IMHO he should not be on a HL list. Yet Watt has a much higher average than Buzz who you think should be on the HL list but Davey should not be................. And you say I talk rubbish.................... RP PS will people stop assuming who the last two signings are..................at this point no one officially knows..............nothing is a given........ Edited November 27, 2015 by Red Panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Yes that is what i said he will be in heat leader role because of his average but not signed as a heat leader from the list whereas Hans won't start as a heat leader but is a heat leader from the list. Think the dispute is whether Buzz was assessed as a heat leader or not by the promoters.if he isn't then they have lost the plot. ...and all signed within the rules and with the full agreement of all EL promoters!! It's not an anti Poole post Skidder1, if they have ALL made the decision (CVS stated they all virtually agreed on who should go on the list) then something is really wrong. It's the averages they start on that will determine what race position they are in so I doubt think Poole have pulled any stunt. It's an odd thing if Buzz hasn't been added to the HL list. All that said IF he starts the season in a heat leader position is there really a problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Yet Watt has a much higher average than Buzz who you think should be on the HL list but Davey should not be................. And you say I talk rubbish.................... RP PS will people stop assuming who the last two signings are..................at this point no one officially knows..............nothing is a given........ yes you are talking rubbish. Watts average was gained as s second string and Bucks as a heat leader so well done for being wrong againIf you are so hateful towards success etc and always having a moan why do you follow speedway yourself. I expect you would pick out individual grains of shale to make sure things were proper if you could. Be easy on yourself and get a life.calm down sweet cheeks. I'm anti the sport going down the pan. Personally my team isn't even in the elite league so not bothered who wins. Thing is I'm a speedway fan first then an Ipswich fan. Shame that Poole fans see their club as more important than the sport itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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