Game On Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Fair play to Poole for getting Buzz as a 2nd string but you really have to question how dense the other promotors are all the time. I think that's putting it politely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 The question was asked and answered and Matt has acted quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 So Buczkowski isn't on the heatleader list. What a farce. Â agree it does seem odd and makes a mockery of the previous announcement put out by Poole saying he was being signed as HL. more common sense that Hans is on the list as he should be whilst someone like Peter Karlsson has, like Buzz, been wrongly assessed as second string. Â Â But Shamek is over the 6.5 average which i understood was part of the criteria for a heat leader. Partially true. Riders not ridden EL in 2015 or others wanting to join the league as heat leader automatically get added to the HL list. If Shamek is 6.5 or over then he will be a heat leader and rightly so. The HL list dictates only who can be signed from it, averages will dictate what riding positions they race in, which to me makes more of a mockery than the list itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 The HL list really is an absurdity.Sold as a way of keeping things level it is the exact opposite. Another thing to fiddle if you can't fiddle the averages. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 I think that's putting it politely. The anger should be directed at our clubs promotors as they keep agreeing these things which any fan can see are ridiculous. Â Guess for the rest a play off place is all they want as they keep giving Poole a big advantage & they take it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 One more nail in the coffin that is British Speedway! How a rider who last rode here as a heatleader isn't on the HL list is a total farce! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 One more nail in the coffin that is British Speedway! How a rider who last rode here as a heatleader isn't on the HL list is a total farce! Esp when he rode the whole season as a heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Â Â agree it does seem odd and makes a mockery of the previous announcement put out by Poole saying he was being signed as HL. more common sense that Hans is on the list as he should be whilst someone like Peter Karlsson has, like Buzz, been wrongly assessed as second string. Â Â Â Partially true. Riders not ridden EL in 2015 or others wanting to join the league as heat leader automatically get added to the HL list. If Shamek is 6.5 or over then he will be a heat leader and rightly so. The HL list dictates only who can be signed from it, averages will dictate what riding positions they race in, which to me makes more of a mockery than the list itself! I think some of us myself included misinterpreted what he said, he said Bucko was going to start the season in a heat leader berth not that he has been signed as a heat leader. I find it strange Chris Holder and Davey Watt haven't been announced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Have you not read the latest on the Poole website FB?! Â ps. Chris re-signs for Torun today!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Have you not read the latest on the Poole website FB?! Â ps. Chris re-signs for Torun today!! Nothing about Chris specifically as far as i can see. Yes it does say the final two will be announced in the week but surprised why it has taken this long, it has been obvious for some time who the last two are. Edited November 27, 2015 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Have you not read the latest on the Poole website FB?! Â ps. Chris re-signs for Torun today!! Â And it also says the Programme Editor position was a 'holiday job' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Yet another nail in the death of elite league speedway. Â Poole 1st the rest nowhere. Â How on earth Buck is not deemed a heat leader is farcical. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 poole originally announced him as a hl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Polish World Cup star Krzysztof Buczkowski is announced as a second string. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 poole originally announced him as a hl No they didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 yes they did look on bournmouth echo  ford says i quote '' he will start in a heat leader berth and i think he will remain there''  do your homework http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/14026378.Speedway__Buczkowski_makes_shock_Pirates_loan_switch/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 That could be because his average is above Hans? So Hans to start at second string? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 So are we saying then that just because someone is named on the hl list doesn't mean they will start the season as hl? Â In other words Ford wasn't lying in that Buzz will start as hl but wasn't on the hl list. Â Finally starting to make some sense. Stupid way of doing it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Its a farce that a Speedway World Cup winner who when he rode here 2 years ago in a stronger league all of a sudden becomes a second string.  Now Poole have done nothing wrong he was available to anyone, but it does make you think that Ford has some inside info that others dont. He moved very quickly to capture him.  So Poole have a team that consists of  A rider in the top 8 in the world (Holder) A rider who started last season at number 1 (Andersen) A rider who averaged over 7 from a second string ( Watt) A rider who WON the world cup, ridden as a heat leader but somehow (because its Poole) is a second string (Buck) Very promising young rider good signing (Kurtz) A rider who is quite happy being a reserve with no desire to better himself so is one of the best in the league (Newman) One of the best second reserves (Ellis)  So thats the elite league title done again and people wonder why the sport is dying.  Still according to Starman its all about winning the sport doesnt matter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Pirate Blue Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Now Poole have done nothing wrong he was available to anyone, but it does make you think that Ford has some inside info that others dont. He moved very quickly to capture him. Â ...... Â A rider who WON the world cup, ridden as a heat leader but somehow (because its Poole) is a second string (Buck) Â Contradiction?? Bad bait I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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