stevebrum Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 So Cov could sign Pawliki and he would be a second string ? absolutely not. riders who haven't ridden here this year can be added to the HL list. Blimey Skidder says Bucko is a heat leader, you say second string who is correct. Thought it was already in print he will be a heat leader. An expected and good signing is Brady. Very impressed the times I've watched him this year. Probably the best new thing in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm sure it said in the local press that Buzz was going to be heatleader, pretty sure Matt was quoted as saying it. Just funny the way they are arguing when they are both supposed to be in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 So if Buck is a heat leader and Hans is on the list then surely thats 2 of Pooles 3 heat leader spots? Holder then must be the other you would think. Wonder why he hasnt signed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 So if Buck is a heat leader and Hans is on the list then surely thats 2 of Pooles 3 heat leader spots? Holder then must be the other you would think. Wonder why he hasnt signed yet?May already have signed. Matt doesn't always announce them straight away. They are carefully planned! Just funny the way they are arguing when they are both supposed to be in the know.Yeah it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) So if Buck is a heat leader and Hans is on the list then surely thats 2 of Pooles 3 heat leader spots? Holder then must be the other you would think. Wonder why he hasnt signed yet? My money is on Davey watt who although a fairly high average will probably be graded as a second string. Personally think the heat leader list is another in a long line of rules that are ill conceived at best. Edited November 18, 2015 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I guess the last two signings will be Holder and Watt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) You are correct Lisa - "PIRATES chief Matt Ford made a shock move for Krzysztof Buczkowski and then insisted: "He can beat anybody in the Elite League." Polish international Buczkowski has joined on a season-long loan from Peterborough and is set to assume a heat-leader berth with the reigning champions. The 29-year-old, who possesses a 6.48 average, takes his place alongside Hans Andersen,Kyle Newman and Adam Ellis in the 2016 septet. And while Ford admitted Buczkowski's switch would come as a surprise to some, he stressed that the 29-year-old would deliver in the skull and crossbones. Ford told the Daily Echo: "There is always a move that comes from the left field by us, one rider who the fans don't necessarily know I'm interested in, and Buczkowski is certainly that rider for next season. "He will start in a heat-leader berth and I think he will remain there." http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/speedway/piratesnews/14026378.Speedway__Buczkowski_makes_shock_Pirates_loan_switch/ My post about Buzz being a heat leader was based on Matt's comments in this article - which was published as was the signing, AFTER the resumed AGM, when any/all outstanding issues re the rules and regs were presumably sorted?! The earlier BSPA statement only refers to clubs having a maximum of 3 riders from their Heat Leader list!! If for example, a club only selects 1 from that list, it doesn't mean they will only go with one heat leader - they will still have 3 (riding at 1,3 and 5) which will be determined by their listed averages, as will the 2nd strings. The only other published info from the BSPA is reference any new untried foreign riders (of heat leader standard?) who will be assessed at 6.50 and added to the BSPA list. (Although this did come out after Part 1 of the AGM and MAY have been changed in the AGM Part 2?! We don't know. Edited November 18, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Oh, I didn't realise Brady wouldn't be riding in PL!!! Fair play to him. Hope he's got some rides abroad. I've probably missed it, but what makes you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Holder's average is 7.47 at the end of last season or it could be 7.83 not sure which one it is. So we could have either 7.76 or 7.40 to work with. So Watt is not coming back because we waste about a point. I'm saying that Matt picks up someone from left field. Emil Sayfutdinov or Antonio Lindback????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Until the heat leader list is announced we cannot really say who is going to be where.............and I thought that the statement that Buzz was a heat leader was retracted on the Poole website.............or was I imagining that.......... RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 If I'm right in saying the Poole side currently has Holder, Andersen, Buczkowski, Kurtz, Newman and Ellis, that is shaping up as a formidable side. I can only see improvement (on last season) in all 6 of the aforementioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 If I'm right in saying the Poole side currently has Holder, Andersen, Buczkowski, Kurtz, Newman and Ellis, that is shaping up as a formidable side. I can only see improvement (on last season) in all 6 of the aforementioned Holder is not yet confirmed but a probability RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Although, never been a member of the Ford appreciation society, one has to admit the signings for next year shows brilliant awareness and puts all other promoters to shame. The signing of Andersen was a masterstroke, a quality rider on a workable average. Buczkowski was another example of positive thinking. Destined to be a big scorer and will benefit big time, from his previous experiences in the Elite League. Kurtz was the signature everyone wanted. so hats off to Ford for acclaiming a brilliant youngster.. Constantly exchanging places with Newman at reserve , he will come on in leaps and bounds.... Not one to blow sunshine up his arse, but , after doing some astute work, what's the betting that he will undo all the positives he done by breaking rules that pisses everyone off.... Is there any need ??????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I've probably missed it, but what makes you say that?Someone said he wasn't doubling up or down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Although, never been a member of the Ford appreciation society, one has to admit the signings for next year shows brilliant awareness and puts all other promoters to shame. The signing of Andersen was a masterstroke, a quality rider on a workable average. Buczkowski was another example of positive thinking. Destined to be a big scorer and will benefit big time, from his previous experiences in the Elite League. Kurtz was the signature everyone wanted. so hats off to Ford for acclaiming a brilliant youngster.. Constantly exchanging places with Newman at reserve , he will come on in leaps and bounds.... Not one to blow sunshine up his arse, but , after doing some astute work, what's the betting that he will undo all the positives he done by breaking rules that pisses everyone off.... Is there any need ??????? They will prob win the league but against who? a mediocre league nothing against Ford i admire what he has achieved some of it hardly rocket science to be honest. Just they have a bit more scope and clout to and Want ?.to do anything they want as for Newman should he not nearly be in the top 5 full time with the progress he has made.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Until the heat leader list is announced we cannot really say who is going to be where.............and I thought that the statement that Buzz was a heat leader was retracted on the Poole website.............or was I imagining that.......... RP You may well be right RP?! The version of the Buzz signing currently on the Poole website makes no mention of his heat leader or 2nd string status - but I'm not sure if its been changed?! Either way he wouldn't be on the so-called heat leader list and I can't honestly believe that the rules will allow any rider with a higher average to slot in as a 2nd string - at Poole or anywhere else!! Mind you, the SpeedwayGP story and the Echo story have only been written by 2 separate journos who probably don't know for sure - like most on this forum - themselves!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Davey Watt & Dakota North are the real winners & losers from last season as can't see anyone apart from Poole taking Davey on a 7 point average as a 2nd string & Dak will probably be the lowest averaged rider from last seasons heat leaders & a big risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I've probably missed it, but what makes you say that? It was stated in the Bournemouth Echo story this morning that 'he had no plans to double up next year - wishing to focus all his efforts on EL racing'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Holder either has an average of 7.43 or 7.83 this means we either have 7.4 points left or 7.8. If it is 7.8 then this could be a quality rider. Emil Sayfutdinov???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Davey Watt & Dakota North are the real winners & losers from last season as can't see anyone apart from Poole taking Davey on a 7 point average as a 2nd string & Dak will probably be the lowest averaged rider from last seasons heat leaders & a big risk. Dak could be anything Dak wants to be. He just has to put his mind to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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