SteveLyric2 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Actually the rule states each team should have 1 tier 1 EDR and 1 tier 2 EDR. That was the point of my post above because Poole will be tracking 2xTier 1 EDRs in Auty and Wright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Depends if Tai is living in the country? Why does it? Nicki P has or had a house in Stevenage i believe but that made no difference to him racing in the UK. Fail to see the relevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Actually the rule states each team should have 1 tier 1 EDR and 1 tier 2 EDR. That was the point of my post above because Poole will be tracking 2xTier 1 EDRs in Auty and Wright. Â Clearly some sort of compromise. Â Poole have tried to twist/interpret/apply the rules to suit ... again the poorly worded rulebook has opened that door... Â As a compromise they've been allowed to use Auty. Edited May 3, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Clearly some sort of compromise. Â Poole have tried to twist/interpret/apply the rules to suit ... again the poorly worded rulebook has opened that door... Â As a compromise they've been allowed to use Auty. I think it's fair too for ALL EDR riders that move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) so poole are allowed to have a tier 1 to guest for a tier 2 Â they'll all be doing it now, whats good for the goose is good for the gander Edited May 3, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Actually the rule states each team should have 1 tier 1 EDR and 1 tier 2 EDR. That was the point of my post above because Poole will be tracking 2xTier 1 EDRs in Auty and Wright. Not so. They can initially declare 3 EDRs of which the 2 sharing must both be Tier 2. On re-declaration the only stipulation is 2 EDRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Poole can not drop Ellis and get Zmarzlik!!  Otherwise Poole would just drop Ellis and Newman once they get the inflated false averages and could sign Zmarzlik and Janowski for example which would be farcical.  Ellis can only be replaced by another EDR rider Yes I know. Can't people read posts on this bloody forum! What I was saying is, if they'd have allowed a non EDR guest on Wednesday, it would have been open season for Poole, or anybody else for that matter, trying to fiddle an EDR out of their team. Edited May 3, 2016 by CB252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 so poole are allowed to have a tier 1 to guest for a tier 2  they'll all be doing it now, whats good for the goose is good for the gander  Don't have a problem with that though as the averages show Ellis has overtaken Newman so fairs fair imo. If it had to be titled as such, Newman should now be titled the Tier 2 rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited)  Don't have a problem with that though as the averages show Ellis has overtaken Newman so fairs fair imo. If it had to be titled as such, Newman should now be titled the Tier 2 rider  in a league thats fair for all there shouldnt be any compromises ellis is tier 2 the rules state a rider below in the ratings , its easy to understand. Edited May 3, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Well we got to May at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Well we got to May at least. Sorry don't understand. What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Â in a league thats fair for all there shouldnt be any compromises ellis is tier 2 the rules state a rider below in the ratings , its easy to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited)  in a league thats fair for all there shouldnt be any compromises ellis is tier 2 the rules state a rider below in the ratings , its easy to understand. Ellis is also a heatleader. With new averages in effect the guest for Kyle should be tier 2. Edited May 3, 2016 by lisa-colette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 So Auty rides in place of Adam tomorrow. I thought one was a tier 1 rider and 1 tier 2 or does that not matter this year? All very confusing It didn't affect Mark Loram either - but thats another story!!!! Â Â So Josh Auty rides at 3 tomorrow, being on the EDR list but with an average lower than Adam's!!?? Â So Poole have 2 Tier 1 EDRs in the team against Wolves, plus r/r for a 2nd string. Is that covered by the rules? Â Â I wonder what the rule would be if Poole decided they wanted to permanently replace Adam on his current average? Count yourself lucky you have 2 tier 1 riders guesting when in the past it would have been a tier 2 rider replacing Ellis (not sure when it changed) If any team wanted to replace a draft rider then it would have to be with one from the list, regardless of average as long as they fit within the point limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Ellis is also a heatleader. Â With new averages in effect the guest for Kyle should be tier 2. You should count yourselves fortunate that the rules have changed as last year you would have had to have had a Tier 2 rider. So in effect you are getting a better rider this year taking Ellis's place then you would have had last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 We didn't have Ellis last year!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Â Poole couldn't of tried it on as you have to have 2 EDR's in a team at all times. If Poole signed Zmarzlik for Ellis they'd have to replace 1 of their other top 5 for a rider on the EDR list & be under 40.5 team average as they'd of replaced 2 rider's at once. But they're not signing a rider, they're using a guest. There declared 1-7 still would have had 2 EDRs. How is it different to the fact Robbo could now guest for Ellis? He's not an EDR. Â Luckily, common sense has prevailed but it does show up the rulebook for the festering pile of crap it is this season, AGAIN! Â Clearly some sort of compromise. Â Poole have tried to twist/interpret/apply the rules to suit ... again the poorly worded rulebook has opened that door... Â As a compromise they've been allowed to use Auty. Poole havent tried to twist anything. I don't believe they have ever tried to use anyone but Auty. When I tweeted about it last night 3 Poole fans replied either say I was wrong or that it was stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 A bit of a hiccup for the Pirates last night,, Â According to some Poole fans (well at least one) they have gone from EL favourites to mere also-rans.. Â With four heatleaders and the best pair of reserves in the EL, Poole remain massive favourites ! Â Don't let any numpty tell you otherwise.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) A bit of a hiccup for the Pirates last night,, Â According to some Poole fans (well at least one) they have gone from EL favourites to mere also-rans.. Â With four heatleaders and the best pair of reserves in the EL, Poole remain massive favourites ! Â Don't let any numpty tell you otherwise.. With 2 of the 4 heatleaders barely scoring currently and 2 of Pooles best performers potentially facing extended lay offs I don't think I'd necessarily agree with that. I can't see this Poole side winning many meetings on the road and even at home I can see a couple of defeats, including tomorrow. The big guns have to start scoring consistently but at the moment I can't see it happening any time soon. Â Hopefully I'm completely wrong 😊 Â Edited: Does this make me a numpty?! Edited May 3, 2016 by Rob VDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't think we will lose tomorrow (unless I have missed something and we turn into Coventry overnight!) but I think Wolves could keep it within 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.