chris4gillian Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Just to bring a little bit of balance to the suggestion of the 'possibility of the Poole forum being closed' - this is not solely down to Starman's posts which admittedly have got a bit personal on occasions and are occasionally also somewhat ill-judged but are usually no worse than - and often in response to - certain other so-called fans who continually and somewhat repetitively 'talk down' the sport with negative and unconstructive comments. Any official club forum is at the behest of the respective promotion and in MF's case, he 'tolerates' it until there is too much pointless negativity which might have a damaging effect on the club's commercial success - as there are a number of sponsors that also use the forum (and website generally) for positive feedback. Of course there is nothing wrong with people debating the latest scores/meetings/decisions on a club forum - but so often the most negative comments come from those that didn't even see the action them selves. I guess that's one similarity between a club forum and the BSF!!? Happy Speedway to one and all in 2016. Nail and head on every forum he posts on, not just Poole's. If anyone posts anything negative about Poole, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything negative about Matt Ford or Middlo, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything which he doesn't agree with, they are anti Poole and a clown. Starman has single handedly done more damage to Poole Speedway on many forums than any other poster, something which you say yourself shouldn't be tolerated but yet you appear to be defending him. On top of the above he gets in to Poole FREE OF CHARGE and abuses this privilege on forums daily, but you appear to be defending him. He is not the cause of all problems, however both the BSF and the Poole Forum would be far more fruitful without him. I look forward to your counter argument 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I just wanted to wish everyone Poole and other fans alike a Happy New Year...............may all your hopes and dreams become reality................. RP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Nail and head on every forum he posts on, not just Poole's. If anyone posts anything negative about Poole, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything negative about Matt Ford or Middlo, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything which he doesn't agree with, they are anti Poole and a clown. Starman has single handedly done more damage to Poole Speedway on many forums than any other poster, something which you say yourself shouldn't be tolerated but yet you appear to be defending him. On top of the above he gets in to Poole FREE OF CHARGE and abuses this privilege on forums daily, but you appear to be defending him. He is not the cause of all problems, however both the BSF and the Poole Forum would be far more fruitful without him. I look forward to your counter argument As I said I was trying to bring a little balance to the debate whilst trying to also show some difference between a 'national' open forum (BSF) and an official club forum (Poole). 'If anyone posts anything negative about Poole, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything negative about Matt Ford or Middlo, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything which he doesn't agree with, they are anti Poole and a clown.' On the Poole forum, I guess it will depend on whether the posts have any foundation or if they are based on fact!! Whilst everyone is entitled to an opinion, if it appears 'anti-Poole' etc then one must expect other Poole supporters to respond. 'Starman has single handedly done more damage to Poole Speedway on many forums than any other poster, something which you say yourself shouldn't be tolerated but yet you appear to be defending him'. Nobody can 'single-handedly' damage a business on a club forum!! It takes at least 2 - often several more - to be involved in aggravation and as I said its often NOT Starman that starts the disagreement - he merely responds in his own way and in his own style (which sometimes I don't agree with - the same as I dislike the way some other posts are expressed), but nevertheless defend his right to have his say. 'On top of the above he gets in to Poole FREE OF CHARGE and abuses this privilege on forums daily, but you appear to be defending him'. Don't see the relevance!! Several people get in free at all clubs - many like Starman are VOLUNTEERs not only on match days but on other days when work and preparation on the track and the speedway facilities are required or if the Management need other chores to be done. I don't give two hoots what is said on the BSF ( unless its something totally derogatory and without foundation about Poole ), but I do feel very strongly about the way opinions and posts are expressed on the Poole forum - by all members, not just Starman. You and others can respectively and 'single-handedly' avoid future annoyances by NOT responding to him. Or if you strongly feel it is your right to post - then so is it his right and everyone else's - but there is always at least one right way and several wrong ways in so doing. Edited January 1, 2016 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 You and others can respectively and 'single-handedly' avoid future annoyances by NOT responding to him. Or if you strongly feel it is your right to post - then so is it his right and everyone else's - but there is always at least one right way and several wrong ways in so doing. Instead of saying all posters can single handedly avoid future annoyances by not responding to one person.Wouldn't it be simpler just to ask one person not to respond to the sensible posters on here 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It would - if it were only one person!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) It would - if it were only one person!!!! It is only one person and you know it,as you said him not them/those(my English not the best) in your post. Edited January 2, 2016 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 It would - if it were only one person!!!! it is only one person thats causing the issues on the Poole thread and every other thread he pops up on (which apparantly is fine for him to do but nobody else can) im the first to hold my hands up and admit i lose it with him and quite rightly some of you are annoyed at my posts about him which ive apologised for. however he is the issue and that has been acknowledged by other Poole fans not just fans of other clubs. stop skirting round the issue and try to make him see the problems he causes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 it is only one person thats causing the issues on the Poole thread and every other thread he pops up on (which apparantly is fine for him to do but nobody else can) im the first to hold my hands up and admit i lose it with him and quite rightly some of you are annoyed at my posts about him which ive apologised for. however he is the issue and that has been acknowledged by other Poole fans not just fans of other clubs. stop skirting round the issue and try to make him see the problems he causes Just ignore his posts like I now do & quickly skip through if someone quotes him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 As I said I was trying to bring a little balance to the debate whilst trying to also show some difference between a 'national' open forum (BSF) and an official club forum (Poole). 'If anyone posts anything negative about Poole, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything negative about Matt Ford or Middlo, they are anti Poole and a clown. If anyone posts anything which he doesn't agree with, they are anti Poole and a clown.' On the Poole forum, I guess it will depend on whether the posts have any foundation or if they are based on fact!! Whilst everyone is entitled to an opinion, if it appears 'anti-Poole' etc then one must expect other Poole supporters to respond. 'Starman has single handedly done more damage to Poole Speedway on many forums than any other poster, something which you say yourself shouldn't be tolerated but yet you appear to be defending him'. Nobody can 'single-handedly' damage a business on a club forum!! It takes at least 2 - often several more - to be involved in aggravation and as I said its often NOT Starman that starts the disagreement - he merely responds in his own way and in his own style (which sometimes I don't agree with - the same as I dislike the way some other posts are expressed), but nevertheless defend his right to have his say. 'On top of the above he gets in to Poole FREE OF CHARGE and abuses this privilege on forums daily, but you appear to be defending him'. Don't see the relevance!! Several people get in free at all clubs - many like Starman are VOLUNTEERs not only on match days but on other days when work and preparation on the track and the speedway facilities are required or if the Management need other chores to be done. I don't give two hoots what is said on the BSF ( unless its something totally derogatory and without foundation about Poole ), but I do feel very strongly about the way opinions and posts are expressed on the Poole forum - by all members, not just Starman. You and others can respectively and 'single-handedly' avoid future annoyances by NOT responding to him. Or if you strongly feel it is your right to post - then so is it his right and everyone else's - but there is always at least one right way and several wrong ways in so doing. Thank you for your reply Skids, however no matter how you dress it up you're still defending him. The difference is everybody else posts sensible comments which respond to what's being asked, he just says the same old rubbish followed by 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) I've said I don't necessarily agree with the way he phrases certain posts - but then I don't necessarily agree on how several forumers (BSF and Poole) phrase their posts ( as I am sure some don't agree with the way I phrase some of mine). Starman is certainly not the only one to make their posts 'personal' but when he does, more often than not, he is responding to another poster. (NB I see one of your (C4G) latest posts on the Poole forum has attracted similar criticism!!!!) I will defend anyone's right to post an opinion but always hope it is based upon some factual foundation and isn't too personal. I certainly don't believe in there being any sort of 'witchhunt' to get someone banned!! (Unless its an anti-Poole post?!) hee hee; nudge nudge; wink wink; (ps. Maybe the BSF Mods could remove the 'clown' emoticon?!, as Starman certainly didn't invent it!) Edited January 3, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Well said person hasn't been on here for a few days. So enjoy it whilst it lasts!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've said I don't necessarily agree with the way he phrases certain posts - but then I don't necessarily agree on how several forumers (BSF and Poole) phrase their posts ( as I am sure some don't agree with the way I phrase some of mine). Starman is certainly not the only one to make their posts 'personal' but when he does, more often than not, he is responding to another poster. (NB I see one of your (C4G) latest posts on the Poole forum has attracted similar criticism!!!!) I will defend anyone's right to post an opinion but always hope it is based upon some factual foundation and isn't too personal. I certainly don't believe in there being any sort of 'witchhunt' to get someone banned!! (Unless its an anti-Poole post?!) hee hee; nudge nudge; wink wink; (ps. Maybe the BSF Mods could remove the 'clown' emoticon?!, as Starman certainly didn't invent it!) My first criticism by ONE person.....not countless criticisms from countless persons unlike you know who. Not quite the same is it. Oh and if he posted opinions rather than guff then at least that would be a step in the right direction. I'll leave things there on this topic. UP THE PIRATES! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Well said person hasn't been on here for a few days. So enjoy it whilst it lasts!! i think maybe he has had a fully deserved little holiday courtesy of the mods or simply has cowardly backed out of the limelight and will creep his way back in when he feels the dust has settled. I see SCB has apologised for his choice of words and why he used them. Unfortunatly the thread is locked so cant applaud him for those actions, though i saw no issue with anything he wrote in the first place. Also in his apologies he states he will not apologise to Starman.... tells you what we all think of him. Would be nice if Starman could come on here (or the horse racing thread) and apologise for his behaviour but as we know he is spineless in that regard. Anyway happy new year to all the decent Poole fans Chris4gillian, foreverblue, lisa-colette , skidder (yes you may not like me but your a decent enough person i feel) and the others ive missed. Still hope you dont win the league though lol Edited January 4, 2016 by Gavan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) i think maybe he has had a fully deserved little holiday courtesy of the mods or simply has cowardly backed out of the limelight and will creep his way back in when he feels the dust has settled. I see SCB has apologised for his choice of words and why he used them. Unfortunatly the thread is locked so cant applaud him for those actions, though i saw no issue with anything he wrote in the first place. Also in his apologies he states he will not apologise to Starman.... tells you what we all think of him. Would be nice if Starman could come on here (or the horse racing thread) and apologise for his behaviour but as we know he is spineless in that regard. Anyway happy new year to all the decent Poole fans Chris4gillian, foreverblue, lisa-colette , skidder (yes you may not like me but your a decent enough person i feel) and the others ive missed. Still hope you dont win the league though lol Having had a few PMs with Starman, I believe his absence is self-imposed, but I may be wrong!! I don't like or dislike you Gavan - I don't know you!! I have to make a judgement (as you have of me) based solely on the tone and repetitive nature of many of your posts - and 'hate' is such a strong word to use in any context!!! Anyway back to the thread - well done to new Poole asset Brady Kurtz in getting to the final of the 1st round of the Aussie Champs. Edited January 5, 2016 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Having had a few PMs with Starman, I believe his absence is self-imposed, but I may be wrong!! I don't like or dislike you Gavan - I don't know you!! I have to make a judgement (as you have of me) based solely on the tone and repetitive nature of many of your posts - and 'hate' is such a strong word to use in any context!!! Anyway back to the thread - well done to new Poole asset Brady Kurtz in getting to the final of the 1st round of the Aussie Champs. I know he hasn't turned a wheel for us yet but for Brady to lose out to a rider of Rohan Tungate's ability shows he may not be up to EL level yet, i don't think just making the final in that field is good enough, he shouldn't be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 thing is blue if brady struggles at first(not convinced he will) straight down to reserve and as a prem league no1 would clean up youd think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I know he hasn't turned a wheel for us yet but for Brady to lose out to a rider of Rohan Tungate's ability shows he may not be up to EL level yet, i don't think just making the final in that field is good enough, he shouldn't be happy with that. Brady Kurtz is definatly up to being an elite league second string. There isnt much between Kurtz and Tungate as Rohan did a good job for Poole a few seasons back. Tungate was simply disillusioned at Ipswich last season and admitted to not even trying sometimes Admittedly Kurtz has far more potential Having had a few PMs with Starman, I believe his absence is self-imposed, but I may be wrong!! I don't like or dislike you Gavan - I don't know you!! I have to make a judgement (as you have of me) based solely on the tone and repetitive nature of many of your posts - and 'hate' is such a strong word to use in any context!!! Anyway back to the thread - well done to new Poole asset Brady Kurtz in getting to the final of the 1st round of the Aussie Champs. fair play but i never have used the word hate for anyone on here. Starman is simply a prat couldnt say i hate him. and yes Kurtz made the final but looking at the field he should have expected to really as the only other 2 riders that finished below him was Josh G and Jack Holder who you would expect him to finish above, and Morris apparantly had machine issues. He should be capable of beating Tungate Fricke and Masters on a regular basis so although he made the final he possibly should be expected to most times. Have to say its the poorest Aussie champs field ive ever seen, No Holder, Ward, Doyle, Batchelor makes it very open Edited January 5, 2016 by Gavan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I know he hasn't turned a wheel for us yet but for Brady to lose out to a rider of Rohan Tungate's ability shows he may not be up to EL level yet, i don't think just making the final in that field is good enough, he shouldn't be happy with that. Really? Kurtz is a fantastic talent who will improve as the season progresses, I wouldn't take too much notice of what goes on in Oz.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Brady Kurtz is definatly up to being an elite league second string. There isnt much between Kurtz and Tungate as Rohan did a good job for Poole a few seasons back. Tungate was simply disillusioned at Ipswich last season and admitted to not even trying sometimes Admittedly Kurtz has far more potential fair play but i never have used the word hate for anyone on here. Starman is simply a prat couldnt say i hate him. and yes Kurtz made the final but looking at the field he should have expected to really as the only other 2 riders that finished below him was Josh G and Jack Holder who you would expect him to finish above, and Morris apparantly had machine issues. He should be capable of beating Tungate Fricke and Masters on a regular basis so although he made the final he possibly should be expected to most times. Have to say its the poorest Aussie champs field ive ever seen, No Holder, Ward, Doyle, Batchelor makes it very open Tungate isn't a bad rider but shouldn't be beating Kurtz, so hopefully just an off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Really? Kurtz is a fantastic talent who will improve as the season progresses, I wouldn't take too much notice of what goes on in Oz.. Yes i'm sure he will but it may be a season too early for him, he has promise but a fantastic talent is a bit over the top in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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