Game On Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hans will be a heatleader so will Freddie Lindgren otherwise what's the point in the heatleader list. Like any other list it can be manipulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Â He should be but somehow I don't think he will be... Â he wont be thats y they signed him! Â he wont last 2 yrs anyway as soon as his forms drops so is he 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If Poole have started signing riders then you would think that the promoters know the heat leader list already.So why the hell have they not let the fans know.By not doing so it just causes fans to speculate and in the end tends to pi$$ the people off who they want to pay their money at the turnstiles same old b/s every year . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) all those riders with low averages ie lindgren,bjerre,andersen,nicholls, that were heat leaders last year , will not be heat leaders now , there averages stay the same you couldnt make it up........ Â promoters just found another loophole to get round the averages... Â in theory you could a team consisting of.... Â freddie lindgren hans andersen kenneth bjerre scott nicholls and still have over 12 points left for a number 1 ... Edited October 21, 2015 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 With Poole being the first team to start using the rules agreed last weekend, it's an ideal opportunity for the other 7 to vote completely differently come November 3rd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Great news for Wolves then with Freddie as a 2nd string That's assuming we can sign anyone that has a higher average! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If hans really can go back to the future....then i'd tell him to go back and give matt ford's dad a condom... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) If hans really can go back to the future....then i'd tell him to go back and give matt ford's dad a condom... I would ask him if there was any left in cold storage for another Matt Ford! The more the merrier. Like any other list it can be manipulated. No manipulation needed as he is currently a second string so won't be a heat leader. Edited October 21, 2015 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 No manipulation needed as he is currently a second string so won't be a heat leader. Which makes the list pointless and doesn't fix any problem, if anything it makes things worse. Sing Hans can use him as a second string despite the fact 18 of his 20 meetings were heatleaders meeting. Yet sign Jacob Thorsell and he has to be a heat leader despite the majority of his meetings being as a second string and him still only being 6.18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 No manipulation needed as he is currently a second string so won't be a heat leader. Â I take it you are on the wind-up. If Hans (and Freddie) isn't on the heat leader list then it is blatent cheating never mind manipulation of the rules! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) its almost as if the promoters knew what the rules were going to be and some heat leaders were told or paid to keep there average down  the elite league more bent than george micheal Edited October 21, 2015 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 My understanding is that the heat leader pool for next season is based on the top 3 riders from each team as at the end of the season (e.g the heat leaders for each team at that point in time). So if Andersen was top 3 for the bees he is in that pool. All GP riders are in that Pool and any assessed riders who come in on 6.5 whether from the PL (if it's possible) or from overseas leagues. Seems a pretty straightforward call to me. Before everyone gets carried away, what is the basis of your understanding ? Just your reading of the AGM statement or something more substantial ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Â I take it you are on the wind-up. If Hans (and Freddie) isn't on the heat leader list then it is blatent cheating never mind manipulation of the rules! How is it cheating/manipulation? You are either on the list or you're not. Unless Matt is in charge of the list then uh oh!!! 🙈🙈😌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 If hans really can go back to the future....then i'd tell him to go back and give matt ford's dad a condom... Hans would never get up to 88mph to go back to the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Which makes the list pointless and doesn't fix any problem, if anything it makes things worse. Sing Hans can use him as a second string despite the fact 18 of his 20 meetings were heatleaders meeting. Yet sign Jacob Thorsell and he has to be a heat leader despite the majority of his meetings being as a second string and him still only being 6.18.Cant really speculate that much as we dont know the criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 How is it cheating/manipulation? You are either on the list or you're not. Unless Matt is in charge of the list then uh oh!!! I think that is your Poole bias coming through. I didn't say Poole have cheated. If Hansi and Freddie are not on the heat leader list then it is cheating because there is no way in this world that either of them are second strings. It will be interesting to see what happens and if they aren't on the list then it is yet another nail in the coffin for British Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I think that is your Poole bias coming through. I didn't say Poole have cheated. If Hansi and Freddie are not on the heat leader list then it is cheating because there is no way in this world that either of them are second strings. It will be interesting to see what happens and if they aren't on the list then it is yet another nail in the coffin for British Speedway. They won't be on the list then as the promotors are inept when it comes to making the right decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 They won't be on the list then as the promotors are inept when it comes to making the right decisions. Personally i have never liked the idea of rating riders especially heat leaders, why can't they just leave it as it is and build to the maximum average allowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I think that is your Poole bias coming through. I didn't say Poole have cheated. If Hansi and Freddie are not on the heat leader list then it is cheating because there is no way in this world that either of them are second strings. It will be interesting to see what happens and if they aren't on the list then it is yet another nail in the coffin for British Speedway. Maybe not Steve, but they are second string averaged riders.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) I think that is your Poole bias coming through. I didn't say Poole have cheated. If Hansi and Freddie are not on the heat leader list then it is cheating because there is no way in this world that either of them are second strings. It will be interesting to see what happens and if they aren't on the list then it is yet another nail in the coffin for British Speedway. You just know that Andersen won't be on the list, that's why he's back at Poole! Edited October 21, 2015 by Jacques 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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