BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Have I? I have passed the odd comment about it yes - but I have not got a bee in my bonnet over it. I know nothing about DAC as you put it. I still believe multiple Accounts are wrong - so much so that years ago when my Account didn't work I set myself up with another Account. A few years after that I thought I would try my old Account to see what would happen - it worked so I contacted the Mods straight away and they block my original Account. To this date - 'The White Knight' is the only Account I have - and I give you my word on that. I hope that satisfies you BW. I don't ever doubt that WK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Have I? I have passed the odd comment about it yes - but I have not got a bee in my bonnet over it. I know nothing about DAC as you put it. I still believe multiple Accounts are wrong - so much so that years ago when my Account didn't work I set myself up with another Account. A few years after that I thought I would try my old Account to see what would happen - it worked so I contacted the Mods straight away and they block my original Account. To this date - 'The White Knight' is the only Account I have - and I give you my word on that. I hope that satisfies you BW. You only have a bee in his bonnet when it someone does not share the same views as you ...otherwise it's ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I think you might mean me? So now you're claiming to be Drop a Cog as well? Interesting, account created while you were banned.. Edited December 2, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I was actually addressing BW - obviously you have not got the wit to understand that. I did not quote BW to attempt to save Bandwidth. Nothing for me to answer here - I don't lie by the way - I would hope that your mentor BW would at least back me up on that. I may not agree with people - but I don't lie. An apology would be nice - however - I won't hold my breath. So you used a quote from me in your post ..then you say you were addressing bw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 So you used a quote from me in your post ..then you say you were addressing bw Back in your box Orville. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why do you find it interesting Multiple accounts are a violation of forum rules. Creating another account while serving a ban is quite clearly a flagrant violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Back in your box Orville. Standard ...you got out telling lies again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 What happens now On this forum, nothing. We just have a little chuckle. It proves what many of us thought though, you were simply a troll the first time round.. realised you had zero credibility left and have returned under a new name to try and troll the forum again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 You won't accept it will you. Have the Play Offs brought people flocking back to Speedway? The answer is a resounding NO. The biggest Crowd is the Final - like it would be in any Competition. A question for you: How much of the Play Off Revenues are paid to the rest of the Clubs in the League who did not actually make the Play Offs? exactly why I brought up witches 98..ko cup final 4,000 (playoff size crowd) winning title against Swindon (same again), these crowds typically rise when trophies handed out. it doesn't have to be play offs, any title decider is similar. the play offs produce good crowds, buthave done nothing long term for speedway, just 2 weeks a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 exactly why I brought up witches 98..ko cup final 4,000 (playoff size crowd) winning title against Swindon (same again), these crowds typically rise when trophies handed out. it doesn't have to be play offs, any title decider is similar. the play offs produce good crowds, buthave done nothing long term for speedway, just 2 weeks a season? So, that is 2 weeks sorted. Now to sort out the rest of the mess... Whereas you say scrap those 2 weeks.. then we just have the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I apologise if my Post read as being sarcastic - it was not meant to be. I just wanted to get my point across. I certainly did not mean to offend you. I think you mean 'is'. Only one person doing that and it is NOT Fred Flange. Personal remarks like that lose you the argument straight away. EDIT: Yet another typo on my account. I have inserted the word NOT which I meant to put in the first place. No worries. No offence taken. Still think you need to embrace the 'play offs'. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why do you find it interesting What happens now Phew! I was absolutely crapping myself. Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 exactly why I brought up witches 98..ko cup final 4,000 (playoff size crowd) winning title against Swindon (same again), these crowds typically rise when trophies handed out. it doesn't have to be play offs, any title decider is similar. the play offs produce good crowds, buthave done nothing long term for speedway, just 2 weeks a season? Witcher has not got the brain to realise this Colin,saying that he would not av a clue what happened in 1998.FACT how is there fact in the play/offs.? we all know the play/offs semi /final do ok for the four who Qualify but they barely compensate for losses throughout the season a few rain offs (ect).Everyone who does not really like the play/offs has said they do a job I've said,WK,Steve,Fred (good bloke!!) have all said the play/offs are ok are they right? a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Witcher has not got the brain to realise this Colin,saying that he would not av a clue what happened in 1998.FACT how is there fact in the play/offs.? we all know the play/offs semi /final do ok for the four who Qualify but they barely compensate for losses throughout the season a few rain offs (ect).Everyone who does not really like the play/offs has said they do a job I've said,WK,Steve,Fred (good bloke!!) have all said the play/offs are ok are they right? a different matter. What ? you keep saying the same thing ...explain if we never had play offs how the crowds would be bigger at thou same matches ? If clubs have losses during the season how by not having the play offs how is that going to help them ? using your logic they will lose even more money . Edited December 2, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 The night witches won the league that year, (under traditional format) the title was never in doubt. Swindon turned up at foxhall, and between the clubs were 31 POINTS.. Yet a huge crowd witnessed witches win the league. you didn't need a play off to get large crowd out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 The National League have dropped the Gold Cup and brought back play offs for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) What ? you keep saying the same thing ...explain if we never had play offs how the crowds would be bigger at thou same matches ? If clubs have losses during the season how by not having the play offs how is that going to help them ? using your logic they will lose even more money . So you recon don't worry about the league programme from late March until October everything will be alrite ? we have the semi/final /Final to make money.Swindon didnt they got mashed at Belle Vue dress it up as much as you like the home leg crowd was very POOR.Lets make it SIMPLE for you, most who don't like the play/offs on here agree they are good for a couple of meetings ,longterm all they do is cover over the cracks don't you see that?? Edited December 2, 2015 by sidney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) So you recon don't worry about the league programme from late March until October everything will be alrite ? we have the semi/final /Final to make money.Swindon didnt they got mashed at Belle Vue dress it up as much as you like the home leg crowd was very POOR.Lets make it SIMPLE for you, most who don't like the play/offs on here agree they are good for a couple of meetings longterm but they cover over the cracks don't you see that?? ?? what are you about ... you keep saying the play offs make up for losses during the season as the crowds are poor so as I asked you to explain why those same matches would be bigger without the play offs ? also if clubs do makes losses during the season why by not having play offs how would they help them make up these losses you keep going on about ? The bottom line is you can't answer these questions and intill you can your points have no value . Edited December 2, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 ?? what are you about ... you keep saying the play offs make up for losses during the season as the crowds are poor so as I asked you to explain why those same matches would be bigger without the play offs ? also if clubs do makes losses during the season why by not having play offs how would they help them make up these losses you keep going on about ? The bottom line is you can't answer these questions and intill you can your points have no value . YAWN YAWN are you happy now? you and your dad WItcher have bored the ass off me to death i finally comply with you even though you have not overwhelmingly won the case to be honest you and your dad Witcher are both muppets.!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) YAWN YAWN are you happy now? you and your dad WItcher have bored the ass off me to death i finally comply with you even though you have not overwhelmingly won the case to be honest you and your dad Witcher are both muppets.!! Standard no reply and then the child like insults when you have loss the debate ...same old Sidney nothing changes .(awaits more insults that we have all heard before in his next post ) Edited December 2, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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