SCB Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 The KO Cup Final crowds held up ok.. However the early rounds did not and were attracting crowds way lower than league meetings. Personally I liked it. The issue, IMO, with the KOC was that meeting were squashed in with a few weeks notice. How can people really plan to go to a meeting when they dont know it happening until 3 weeks before it happens? Give the KOC round 1 (any possible prelims) a deadline of May 1st, the next round June 15th, the Semis August 1st and the final September 15th. Gives 6 weeks to arrange and run each meeting. Any meeting not run is a 60-30 home loss, both legs failed then the team they're due to face gets a bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 a ko cup final that could take place in the summer holidays would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 The issue, IMO, with the KOC was that meeting were squashed in with a few weeks notice. How can people really plan to go to a meeting when they dont know it happening until 3 weeks before it happens? Give the KOC round 1 (any possible prelims) a deadline of May 1st, the next round June 15th, the Semis August 1st and the final September 15th. Gives 6 weeks to arrange and run each meeting. Any meeting not run is a 60-30 home loss, both legs failed then the team they're due to face gets a bye. Of course, but that would require sensible fixture planning.. so the chances are zero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 The issue, IMO, with the KOC was that meeting were squashed in with a few weeks notice. How can people really plan to go to a meeting when they dont know it happening until 3 weeks before it happens? Give the KOC round 1 (any possible prelims) a deadline of May 1st, the next round June 15th, the Semis August 1st and the final September 15th. Gives 6 weeks to arrange and run each meeting. Any meeting not run is a 60-30 home loss, both legs failed then the team they're due to face gets a bye. WHEN Speedway Star was sponsoring it we had some great Finals, big crowds but then, as you say, the promoters effectively wrecked it. Some years we didn't have time to preview the event let alone three weeks. The final straw for SS was when we turned up for the second leg of the Final with medals and the trophy only to find that without any notice we had been usurped as sponsors, no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WHEN Speedway Star was sponsoring it we had some great Finals, big crowds but then, as you say, the promoters effectively wrecked it. Some years we didn't have time to preview the event let alone three weeks. The final straw for SS was when we turned up for the second leg of the Final with medals and the trophy only to find that without any notice we had been usurped as sponsors, no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite. Shocking. And they wonder why the sport is dying on his backside, do that with sponsors all the time and eventually you're not going to have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WHEN Speedway Star was sponsoring it we had some great Finals, big crowds but then, as you say, the promoters effectively wrecked it. Some years we didn't have time to preview the event let alone three weeks. The final straw for SS was when we turned up for the second leg of the Final with medals and the trophy only to find that without any notice we had been usurped as sponsors, no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite. I knew nothing about that. How disgusting is that - and Speedway calls itself a professional Sport. No the wonder they can't find a Sponsor for British League Speedway. If I had won the Lottery I would maybe have given Sponsorship a thought. After that snippet of information - absolutely no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite. It was probably only a rotting portacabin though. You were probably better off outside in the cold... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 ACTUALLY it was at Peterborough. Nowhere were we better looked after than at Cradley Heath ... yes, it was a portacabin but dear old Colin Pratt always ensured we had a fine buffet and beers on hand. Plus pork scratchings ... what a treat! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 I knew nothing about that. How disgusting is that - and Speedway calls itself a professional Sport. No the wonder they can't find a Sponsor for British League Speedway. If I had won the Lottery I would maybe have given Sponsorship a thought. After that snippet of information - absolutely no chance. Damn! And the British League was banking on your win TWK! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WHEN Speedway Star was sponsoring it we had some great Finals, big crowds but then, as you say, the promoters effectively wrecked it. Some years we didn't have time to preview the event let alone three weeks. The final straw for SS was when we turned up for the second leg of the Final with medals and the trophy only to find that without any notice we had been usurped as sponsors, no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite.that's disgusting, ss koc finals used to be fantastic (the ones I saw in any case)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Damn! And the British League was banking on your win TWK! Never thought of that Ray. I wish it was British League again. :approve: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WHEN Speedway Star was sponsoring it we had some great Finals, big crowds but then, as you say, the promoters effectively wrecked it. Some years we didn't have time to preview the event let alone three weeks. The final straw for SS was when we turned up for the second leg of the Final with medals and the trophy only to find that without any notice we had been usurped as sponsors, no mention in the programme and not even access to the hospitality suite. Medals and a Trophy ! ....when it came to sponsors I am not how they got on without you ...no wonder it ended when you guys left . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WE also paid the BSPA a (for us) reasonable sum of money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Never thought of that Ray. I wish it was British League again. :approve: Actually, I was just pulling your leg about your possible lottery win....I too hadn't noticed the Freudian slip! Us old timers! 'British League' does sound better though, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Let's be honest, the figures involved at not relevant. What he BSPA did is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 WE also paid the BSPA a (for us) reasonable sum of money... £ 50 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Actually, I was just pulling your leg about your possible lottery win....I too hadn't noticed the Freudian slip! Us old timers! 'British League' does sound better though, IMHO. 3 cheers for us old-timers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 £ 50 ? A few grand ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) The SSKOC was treated like some mess on the bottom of your shoe in the latter years. Even with about eight teams, the competition seemed to drag on and didn't it, in the last year, see one semi played the night before the final, or something like that? The EL Play-Offs happening sometimes the same week dwarfed the KOC Final in popularity and I recall Belle Vue's 2005 KOC Final win, 30 years after their last one, was a damp squibb, coming a week after the loss to Coventry in the PO Final. The Finals should have been well apart. Edited October 8, 2015 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I feel play offs in any sport are there so that if your are 7th with a few weeks to go, you can still make the play offs and become Champions (speedway, ice hockey and both codes of rugby), or get promoted (football). This keeps interest up and thus fans coming through the turnstiles. Then the play off matches have so much hanging on their results, more fans than usual are likely to attend, so yes, play offs are all about generating revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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