PaulS Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Anton is not riding in Uk this year. Has already been over in December and taken all his gear back to Sweden. Well, we can't complain if he gave it until December. Perhaps a break from UK will work well for him and he can perhaps return as a rejuvenated asset in the future. Anton would have been a credible plan B if perhaps not universally popular given the 'waste of team building points' (I would have been happy to give the lad one last chance mind especially given how strong the team looks overall...) - so who exactly could be a plan B? Our does Mr Havelock now have us over a barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 So if, as seems likely, this goes to arbitration what if anything will the bspa take into account when they determine the final transfer fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 So if, as seems likely, this goes to arbitration what if anything will the bspa take into account when they determine the final transfer fee I'd guess (and hope), take into account what Redcar have asked for and what Newcastle have offered and come to a fair compromise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) I'd guess (and hope), take into account what Redcar have asked for and what Newcastle have offered and come to a fair compromise. I hope they take into account how rubbish Matty is at Brough,,, and 'for speedways sake', don't let us be throwing money away, speedway can't afford that sort of behaviour Edited January 23, 2016 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 You mean that stuff that was invented by the Chinese, mind the Haggis is French/Spanish, the bagpipes come from Pakistan. :party: Invention is only one part of an products evolution. It has to be perfected, and that needs a 'tartan accent' IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 So if, as seems likely, this goes to arbitration what if anything will the bspa take into account when they determine the final transfer fee Average, future potential, age and parity with similar riders valuation. Ludde's price could be used for parity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) I'd guess (and hope), take into account what Redcar have asked for and what Newcastle have offered and come to a fair compromise. But if both parties agree to arbitration, they have to stick to the verdict. Matej Kus can start racing for Newcastle right away, before the court sits, but when it does -- and rules on a fee -- the Diamonds must then pay that amount. No good then saying "no, that's too much". Or indeed, Redcar saying "no, that's not enough"..... Edited January 23, 2016 by Positive Thinker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 But if both parties agree to arbitration, they have to stick to the verdict. Matej Kus can start racing for Newcastle right away, before the court sits, but when it does -- and rules on a fee -- the Diamonds must then pay that amount. No good then saying "no, that's too much". Or indeed, Redcar saying "no, that's not enough"..... I'd hope that if both teams agree to go to arbitration, they will both know the rules regards the ruling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'd hope that if both teams agree to go to arbitration, they will both know the rules regards the ruling. In this sport, just 'knowing the rules' isn't enough. A slide rule, spirit gauge and bend tolerance simulator are required before you even ring the rider up, never mind the finer points of averages, points money, previous affiliations and actual ability on a bike even come into consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulS Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Average, future potential, age and parity with similar riders valuation. Ludde's price could be used for parity. Sounds like Ludde's fee was rather less than Kus? So, yes it makes sense to try to use it! Cue my usual comments about favourite rider blasting round the bends etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sounds like Ludde's fee was rather less than Kus? So, yes it makes sense to try to use it! Cue my usual comments about favourite rider blasting round the bends etc... dunno how much they paid for him,,, but Ludde's priceless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 But if both parties agree to arbitration, they have to stick to the verdict. Matej Kus can start racing for Newcastle right away, before the court sits, but when it does -- and rules on a fee -- the Diamonds must then pay that amount. No good then saying "no, that's too much". Or indeed, Redcar saying "no, that's not enough"..... That could be Havelock`s next trick, refuse to go to arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 That could be Havelock`s next trick, refuse to go to arbitration. He doesn't have that option. After March 1st Kus can apply to the SCB for arbitration or Newcastle could do that before then with a non-refundable £300 protest fee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 He doesn't have that option. After March 1st Kus can apply to the SCB for arbitration or Newcastle could do that before then with a non-refundable £300 protest fee. Excellent, then I hope a sensible price is found for Matejs transfer to Newcastle and this saga can be put to bed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Matej will be able to use Saga if it drags on any longer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Matej will be able to use Saga if it drags on any longer... Some might say it already is a saga..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Some might say it already is a saga..... but it was mentioned long ago that March would be the deciding time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 but it was mentioned long ago that March would be the deciding time I know that and you know that, but others seem not to know that... Did you not know that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I know that and you know that, but others seem not to know that... Did you not know that! errmmm, dunno am getting a bad head now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm Redcar fan and me along with many other Redcar fans want rid of him, he didn't want to ride last season for us and it showed at the start of the season, he was dropping his average hoping to go back to Berwick but when they announced they may not ride in 2016, kus started scoring, not saying that's what happened but it's funny how he changed mid season, he was always fighting and arguing with team mates and was not a team man at all, never got involved and just kept himself to himself, he is a great rider on his day but clearly doesn't want to be at Redcar so havvy should just let him go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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