Tsunami Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I will comment on this any rider(s) can be injured at any time that's part of speedway and I will put it to you what happens if Ashley Morris gets injured then you are in exactly the same boat. I'm a big believer that you should put out your best riders in the position that they will have the maximum advantage to the team. VP at reserve would give that and again imho gives us the best chance of covering LR. Too late now but George will be judged at the end of the season if he was right or wrong and I sincerely hope he was right. Difference is that you lose Morris you still have Victor and need cover for Morris. In the alternative arrangement if you lose Victor you have two missing out of 7 and need 2. Might be ifs and buts, but this is what management do to cover more alternatives. The strongest permutation IS RR and Victor at 6, but with a massive risk if those ifs and buts come to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brough Diamond Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Tero I am informed hasn't had his op, hasn't raced since and his average is too high. Like him or not, Morris is the best available as you would have seen against us at the Peterborough home meeting. Good gater and rides Brough well. Â Â Â His twitter feed post says he had the op on the 2nd of June, Dave. Â Matterless of course as we coudn't have fitted him in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Well many people may well be surprised to hear on my thoughts regarding to signing a 7th rider in Ashley Morris, whilst on many things I don't agree with Newcastle or George on I do believe the best possible move that could be done HAS been made & I congratulate that decision! Â In the past we have run RR far to many times for my liking, yes we were very unfortunate Lewis getting injured when he did ( and I wish him all the best) & I do tend to think that Danny in my view should of been replaced I'd say about July, & yes I do feel for him as I think he tries his best but has gone the same way as Steve Worrall a couple of years ago. Â But at least he still tries and keeps plugging away, but I think to me a big problem he has he tends to shut off about half way down the straights!! Â Good luck to both Ash & Dan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acclennell Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Difference is that you lose Morris you still have Victor and need cover for Morris. In the alternative arrangement if you lose Victor you have two missing out of 7 and need 2. Might be ifs and buts, but this is what management do to cover more alternatives. The strongest permutation IS RR and Victor at 6, but with a massive risk if those ifs and buts come to fruition. I'd go for the strongest everytime but that's me and seems pretty split on views as to what is best and I cansee both points of view but the proof will be in the pudding at the end of the season and as I said hopefully it's proved my views are not upheld. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Well many people may well be surprised to hear on my thoughts regarding to signing a 7th rider in Ashley Morris, whilst on many things I don't agree with Newcastle or George on I do believe the best possible move that could be done HAS been made & I congratulate that decision!  In the past we have run RR far to many times for my liking, yes we were very unfortunate Lewis getting injured when he did ( and I wish him all the best) & I do tend to think that Danny in my view should of been replaced I'd say about July, & yes I do feel for him as I think he tries his best but has gone the same way as Steve Worrall a couple of years ago.  But at least he still tries and keeps plugging away, but I think to me a big problem he has he tends to shut off about half way down the straights!! ​ If this is the case, then his nerve is in question.​ Or more likely, his own belief in himself. Always thought that his lack of scoring meant he was unable to maintain his bikes for financial reasons but it stands to reason that his confidence is perchance also failing.  Good luck to both Ash & Dan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondGlory Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think I recall Danny Phillips saying himself that he's a confidence rider in one of the programmes where he got interviewed. I really want to see him do well and move forward in his career. The pass he made last Sunday against Edinburgh proves that he has what it takes, it's just the confidence and the little bit of extra experience required that's holding him back. Good on him for trying to improve though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 He shuts off early yeah, but he also starts his slide a lot earlier than quite a lot of other riders too, if you watch, far too early for him, maybe Robbo, but not Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 on the Morris v R/R debate,,, with no injuries, Kus and Vic would surely work it well and Danny would hopefully find some form at HOME, but AWAY could be a totally different story with no-one consistent on the road, (apart from DP),,, a wonder if this was taken into account in the thinking ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Interesting change Exactly! I thought it would have been for Philips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Exactly! I thought it would have been for Philips. I think you have to have a young British 3 pointer in your team. You can only swop like for like. Ash's average is 4.37. Edited September 1, 2016 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think you have to have a young British 3 pointer in your team. You can only swop like for like. Ash's average is 4.37. I know, pity neither of them is a three pointer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike7164 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016  Well many people may well be surprised to hear on my thoughts regarding to signing a 7th rider in Ashley Morris, whilst on many things I don't agree with Newcastle or George on I do believe the best possible move that could be done HAS been made & I congratulate that decision!  In the past we have run RR far to many times for my liking, yes we were very unfortunate Lewis getting injured when he did ( and I wish him all the best) & I do tend to think that Danny in my view should of been replaced I'd say about July, & yes I do feel for him as I think he tries his best but has gone the same way as Steve Worrall a couple of years ago.  But at least he still tries and keeps plugging away, but I think to me a big problem he has he tends to shut off about half way down the straights!! ​ If this is the case, then his nerve is in question.​ Or more likely, his own belief in himself. Always thought that his lack of scoring meant he was unable to maintain his bikes for financial reasons but it stands to reason that his confidence is perchance also failing.  Good luck to both Ash & Dan!! I can see why you say that & indeed I had considered it too, however he seems from what limited scores I've seen of his in the NL still be capable of that level!  So on that basis I don't think so! He shuts off early yeah, but he also starts his slide a lot earlier than quite a lot of other riders too, if you watch, far too early for him, maybe Robbo, but not Danny Yes I agree but because he shuts off on the straight he loses so much of what advantage he gets by doing as you say IMO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) What would happen now if, say Danny was injured, no.7 guests or only NL guests ??? Â cos, obviously now we can't 'sign' another rider,,, Edited September 1, 2016 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 What would happen now if, say Danny was injured, no.7 guests or only NL guests ??? Â cos, obviously now we can't 'sign' another rider,,, Â No. 7 guests (I think!). Providing they haven't got an Ave over Danny's 3.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Ashley Morris was good for Panthers, & I hope he is back with us next year. Very good signing for the Diamonds, with the limited riders available in my opinion. He will have a field day against out bottom 3 if we meet in the play offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 No. 7 guests (I think!). Providing they haven't got an Ave over Danny's 3.00. and we could use the guest at home each week and, away as long as the 8 day rule doesn't apply,,, so basically be able to use the same guest all of the time if, he wasn't busy or infact we could find one ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 What would happen now if, say Danny was injured, no.7 guests or only NL guests ??? Â cos, obviously now we can't 'sign' another rider,,, Â A bit tasteless speculating on Phillips being potentially injured, imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 A bit tasteless speculating on Phillips being potentially injured, imo there is plenty on here speculating on riders being injured, what ifs and buts,,,, plenty seem to want rid of him,,, he might take one for the team,,, but am only messing around, or is that not allowed ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Tom Perry was a 3.00 reserve at the beginning of the season, so he was a draft rider, no? So couldn't we have replaced Phillips with Perry and Rose with Morris? I know Perry signed for Berwick now, but could that have been done? Since Perry and Phillips are both draft riders? The the team could have been... 1. Steve Worrall 8.98 2. Victor Palovaara 5.49 3. Matej Kus 6.22 4. Ludvig Lindgren 7.37 5. Robert Lambert 8.30 6. Ashley Morris 4.37 7. Tom Perry 4.26 I don't know how good Tom Perry is around Brough but surely it would have been an upgrade of Phillips and that team looks waaay more than good enough to win the title LR (5.86) + DP (3.00) = 8.86 AM (4.37) + TP (4.26) = 8.63 So the numbers would have added up  Again I'll repeat myself so no one gets grumpy I know Perry has now signed for Berwick, but would this have been possible?  Edit: Peterborough brought in Holub at 7, saying that Perry was their draft rider, so we could say Perry was our draft rider, if that makes sense?? Edited September 1, 2016 by Dandelion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Yes I agree but because he shuts off on the straight he loses so much of what advantage he gets by doing as you say IMO! The thing is when you shut off the bike it actually picks up speed because the rear wheel slows stops spinning and picks up drive which makes it harder to turn unless you have already started turning and it's different on every track newcastles has such tight corners so you really have to turn early and narrow straights I have seen him at quite a few other tacks and does not seem to shut off early can't think of any other rider that would come in and do much better it was a big step for him this year how many Brit 3 pointers have been banging in the points apart from Dan Bewley he is one of these riders that comes along once in a blue moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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