JonHWeiner Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 If the Bees riders read this forum, they won't feel like turning out at all. I can't wait for the new season to start and the speculation to stop. Let's hope the boys will surprise everyone (in a positive way). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 If the Bees riders read this forum, they won't feel like turning out at all. I can't wait for the new season to start and the speculation to stop. Let's hope the boys will surprise everyone (in a positive way). Our reserves may do ok, but as it stands I see five teams with a stronger reserve pair than ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 If the Bees riders read this forum, they won't feel like turning out at all. I can't wait for the new season to start and the speculation to stop. Let's hope the boys will surprise everyone (in a positive way). Agreed. If they do read the forum let's hope they are determined to prove the negative comments were off the mark! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) You have to be realistic the side on paper isn't great compared to some others. I'm more than willing to give it a chance though, it wouldn't be the first time fans have been wrong about a side. Edited December 7, 2015 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Big year for King, will need to step up from last year. If the new pole doesn't score and is miles off the pace in the first few matches, do we stick by him or will Mick look at making a change.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bees_Man Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Can only see two big defeats in the elite shield, so I'm guessing you might find out then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Shame we've got to face Poole first. Can't we just give them the Shield and start a week later as they are bound to win anyway? It doesn't seem like a very good idea to have Bomber's testimonial just two days later either as not everyone can afford two meetings in two days, especially us poor old pensioners now we've got to pay full price. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Shame we've got to face Poole first. Can't we just give them the Shield and start a week later as they are bound to win anyway? It doesn't seem like a very good idea to have Bomber's testimonial just two days later either as not everyone can afford two meetings in two days, especially us poor old pensioners now we've got to pay full price. You'll have to dress up as a teenager and get in for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Big year for King, will need to step up from last year. If the new pole doesn't score and is miles off the pace in the first few matches, do we stick by him or will Mick look at making a change.. Think he will get the two Elite Shield matches and maybe Bombers testimonial. Wont get much tougher than Poole so if he does score points then he'll stay, if he scores 0-2 I think a change would have to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Think he will get the two Elite Shield matches and maybe Bombers testimonial. Wont get much tougher than Poole so if he does score points then he'll stay, if he scores 0-2 I think a change would have to be made. It's easy to say a change could be made if he struggles but you also need to have riders available. As other teams are finding when team building, there's not a long list of them out there wanting to ride in the UK. We also can't have anymore D/U riders which limits it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) It's easy to say a change could be made if he struggles but you also need to have riders available. As other teams are finding when team building, there's not a long list of them out there wanting to ride in the UK. We also can't have anymore D/U riders which limits it more. I think there will be riders more inclined to ride in Britain once the season starts if they have no Swedish or Polish club. The King signing left us with limited options with him being a heatleader and a d/u rider. Of course if Woryna is scoring only 2 points you wouldn't have to look hard to find an improvement and we did similar last year when signing Kylmakorpi. Edited December 8, 2015 by woz01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Think he will get the two Elite Shield matches and maybe Bombers testimonial. Wont get much tougher than Poole so if he does score points then he'll stay, if he scores 0-2 I think a change would have to be made. I didn't think you could replace a rider with an assessed average until after he's got a real average - which next year is gonna be after 4 EL meetings. I think all Bees fans are going to be very pleasantly surprised with Woryna's scores in the league. But I don't expect him to score that well in the Shield meetings!! Edited December 8, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I didn't think you could replace a rider with an assessed average until after he's got a real average - which next year is gonna be after 4 EL meetings. I think all Bees fans are going to be very pleasantly surprised with Woryna's scores in the league. But I don't expect him to score that well in the Shield meetings!! That rule no longer applies, we changed Jamrog after i think 1 EL meeting last season. I personally dont think he will score poorly but with over 7 points to play with it was a poor signing and he wont get close to that. Difference with Woryna and Jamrog is Woryna has much more time to prepare where Jamrog had just a couple of weeks. Still a big ask for a young lad who has never rode in the EL before. Edited December 8, 2015 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I didn't think you could replace a rider with an assessed average until after he's got a real average - which next year is gonna be after 4 EL meetings. I think all Bees fans are going to be very pleasantly surprised with Woryna's scores in the league. But I don't expect him to score that well in the Shield meetings!! That rule no longer applies, we changed Jamrog after i think 1 EL meeting last season. I personally dont think he will score poorly but with over 7 points to play with it was a poor signing and he wont get close to that. Difference with Woryna and Jamrog is Woryna has much more time to prepare where Jamrog had just a couple of weeks. Still a big ask for a young lad who has never rode in the EL before.Not sure if it applies or not because Jamrog was replaced before any EL meetings wasn't he?Edited - he was replaced before your first EL meeting. Edited December 8, 2015 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Not sure if it applies or not because Jamrog was replaced before any EL meetings wasn't he? Edited - he was replaced before your first EL meeting. Your correct. I was convinced he rode v Wolves at Brandon but I was wrong. Still the point still stands that if he scores poorly he can still be replaced before the EL fixtures. I'm sure other assessed riders have been replaced before getting an official average though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Surely he should be given a bit of time to prove himself? Half a chance seems a bit unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Your correct. I was convinced he rode v Wolves at Brandon but I was wrong. Still the point still stands that if he scores poorly he can still be replaced before the EL fixtures. I'm sure other assessed riders have been replaced before getting an official average though. Agree, don't see an issue with replacing a rider before the EL starts. Not sure if there was another replaced before but it wouldn't surprise me if there was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Surely he should be given a bit of time to prove himself? Half a chance seems a bit unfair. Back in the days with Colin Pratt if they were rubbish then they would see out most of the season but Horton seems to chop and change quite quickly if things aren't working out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Back in the days with Colin Pratt if they were rubbish then they would see out most of the season but Horton seems to chop and change quite quickly if things aren't working out Unless Horton has said to him before he signed you've got this long and you need to at least score this etc...Then fair enough! He needs a few meetings to get used to the track or Harris to set up his bike for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Agree, don't see an issue with replacing a rider before the EL starts. Not sure if there was another replaced before but it wouldn't surprise me if there was. Thornblom was one, think he had only one meeting for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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