LisaColette Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Zengota?? He's a 3rd heatleader tops! The league a lot weaker now though, so will push him up a bit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 The league a lot weaker now though, so will push him up a bit! But it will push Harris, KK, Doyle, Holder etc up a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 KK and Harris won the EL pairs in 2010. Since then the EL has been watered down season after season. As a pair I'd say they're easily the best in the league. After Doyle whatever other is better than either? Maybe Zagar but thats border line, nobody has two riders better than them and most won't have 1! Thats this teams one saving grace, a brilliant top two you can rely on for TRs and heat 15s. Would never use the word 'rely' where KK is concerned!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 But it will push Harris, KK, Doyle, Holder etc up a bit too.But not as much as there is a max limit. Maybe I just rate Zengota too highly, but think he is better than 3rd heatleader. I'd be really happy with a top 2 of him and Doyle. Maybe I am just too critical of Coventry cos I don't like them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 the difference between coventry and wolves is cvs doesnt sign new riders mid season very often to turn things around and coventry do...Maybe this is a WHOOSH, but are you serious? The Coventry who could have been champs last year if they had got a strong replacement for Robson?The league a lot weaker now though, so will push him up a bit!Zengy averaged under 5 as a hl last year I believe. Swindon's number 2 will surely be Morris or batchKK and Harris won the EL pairs in 2010. Since then the EL has been watered down season after season. As a pair I'd say they're easily the best in the league. After Doyle whatever other is better than either? Maybe Zagar but thats border line, nobody has two riders better than them and most won't have 1! Thats this teams one saving grace, a brilliant top two you can rely on for TRs and heat 15s.Of course poole could have the strongest top two if they don't sign watt.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) KK and Harris won the EL pairs in 2010. Since then the EL has been watered down season after season. As a pair I'd say they're easily the best in the league. After Doyle whatever other is better than either? Maybe Zagar but thats border line, nobody has two riders better than them and most won't have 1! Thats this teams one saving grace, a brilliant top two you can rely on for TRs and heat 15s.That's it, keep telling yourself that and it might be true.Harris at least is reliable. Makes you wonder which kk you believe you will be getting This year's version who would struggle to outscore Josh Bates, the last Bees incarnation the one who was sacked or the decent one who did ok as a 2nd heat leader. Much rubbish has sailed under the bridge since he last had a decent season in the EL. Long may that reign. Edited December 1, 2015 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 That's it, keep telling yourself that and it might be true. Harris at least is reliable. Makes you wonder which kk you believe you will be getting This year's version who would struggle to outscore Josh Bates, the last Bees incarnation the one who was sacked or the decent one who did ok as a 2nd heat leader. Much rubbish has sailed under the bridge since he last had a decent season in the EL. Long may that reign. I get the feeling SteveBrum isnt a fan of KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 well if kk doesnt perform they will have scope for a decent replacement as his average is quite highish.......7.96 i think larsen, would be prime candidate..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I get the feeling SteveBrum isnt a fan of KK No idea what gives it away, I was trying to keep it under wraps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 No idea what gives it away, I was trying to keep it under wraps! You did an excellent job at keeping it all in! 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 You did an excellent job at keeping it all in! And here was me thinking I was being subtle!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 You'd think someone who watched Lindgren pootle around for a 6 point average would be keeping quiet about KKs failings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 You'd think someone who watched Lindgren pootle around for a 6 point average would be keeping quiet about KKs failings! I had the pleasure of watching one of the best EL riders of the past 15 years. And not sacked once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I had the pleasure of watching one of the best EL riders of the past 15 years. And not sacked once! Only because your promotion don't have the balls to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 no chance of freddie ever leaving wolves for another club he knows he'd get the sack everywhere else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Only because your promotion don't have the balls to do it. Of course not, that's why they sacked Piotr in 2014. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Of course not, that's why they sacked Piotr in 2014. Yep shows true grit sacking someone who hast turned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Yep shows true grit sacking someone who hast turned up. Like how you sacked the underperforming Hans You mean? You know all about that with KK anyway Edited December 1, 2015 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hope Gary Havelock makes a full recovery from his operation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Like how you sacked the underperforming Hans You mean? Do you mean the rider with a BETTER away average than Andreas Jonsson, Chris Holder and Matej Zagar? Excluding fast trackers only five riders finished above Andersen in the away rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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