Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) You missed out Coventry, who have a dreadful side. As I was responding on a Coventry thread I didn't feel the need to add them as it was already suggested we will be pants in 2016. Luckily for us we can make a quick change if it doesn't go well in the Elite Shield! Edited December 1, 2015 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 You missed out Coventry, who have a dreadful side.They can't fight themselves for the wooden spoon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 As I was responding on a Coventry thread I didn't feel the need to add them as it was already suggested we will be pants in 2016. At least we agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 At least we agree. There will be 3 way above the rest as things stand now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 They can't fight themselves for the wooden spoon! Not sure they look good enough to even fight! However until we see ALL the teams line ups it's hard to assume just who else might struggle. So far Cov and Wolves are the only completed announced side that we can judge. There will be 3 way above the rest as things stand now. Possibly , let's see them complete first tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 the difference between coventry and wolves is cvs doesnt sign new riders mid season very often to turn things around and coventry do... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 the difference between coventry and wolves is cvs doesnt sign new riders mid season very often to turn things around and coventry do... Coventry look like they will need to tho, including getting a decent number one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Coventry look like they will need to tho, including getting a decent number one. Depends on which KK we get. A 2010 on and we'll have the best top 2 in the EL. King and Woryna are the worry for me. The rest im fine with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Depends on which KK we get. A 2010 on and we'll have the best top 2 in the EL. King and Woryna are the worry for me. The rest im fine with. At least KK will give you half a season......maybe.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 woryna is the worry king will be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Depends on which KK we get. A 2010 on and we'll have the best top 2 in the EL. King and Woryna are the worry for me. The rest im fine with.I think Bell Vue will have the best top two followed by Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Coventry look like they will need to tho, including getting a decent number one. While Wolves need a number 1 and a number 2! I can't believe a Wolves fan criticizing another teams heat leaders. You haven't got any! Yes you'll almost certainly beat Coventry at second string but our heat leaders will easily beat yours. you have Lindgren whos got worse every season for about 6 years now, Bech who has never hacked it as a heat leader, Kylmakorpi who was only average at best as a heat leader, Thorsell who crapped out riding as a heat leader and Masters who has never been a heat leader. Meanwhile we have a guy who with bonus points has been top 6 in the averages 2 years running and a guy who was World number 2 last year. Our weakness is most certainly not heat leaders but the fact we don't have a 4th rider or a strong reserve, I know this, I have pointed this out a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Coventry look like they will need to tho, including getting a decent number one. Looking at wolves team, you need more than just a number 1, looking weaker than last year 🙊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 While Wolves need a number 1 and a number 2! I can't believe a Wolves fan criticizing another teams heat leaders. You haven't got any! Yes you'll almost certainly beat Coventry at second string but our heat leaders will easily beat yours. you have Lindgren whos got worse every season for about 6 years now, Bech who has never hacked it as a heat leader, Kylmakorpi who was only average at best as a heat leader, Thorsell who crapped out riding as a heat leader and Masters who has never been a heat leader. Meanwhile we have a guy who with bonus points has been top 6 in the averages 2 years running and a guy who was World number 2 last year. Our weakness is most certainly not heat leaders but the fact we don't have a 4th rider or a strong reserve, I know this, I have pointed this out a few times. That's the spirit. Keep telling yourself Coventry have a proper number one. I give it 3 months till he is sacked again. Harris and Garrity the only pluses for Coventry. The rest is awful. Rather our 1-7 in comparison. Looking at wolves team, you need more than just a number 1, looking weaker than last year Lindgren will probably outscore KK, so I'm not concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 That's the spirit. Keep telling yourself Coventry have a proper number one. I give it 3 months till he is sacked again. Harris and Garrity the only pluses for Coventry. The rest is awful. Rather our 1-7 in comparison. Lindgren will probably outscore KK, so I'm not concerned. Lindgren will struggle to out score reserves of he rides like the season just gone 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Lindgren will struggle to out score reserves of he rides like the season just gone Whereas Lindgren will lap KK if we are judging this season. Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I think Bell Vue will have the best top two followed by Poole Id prefer KK and Harris over Holder and Buzckowski/Andersen/Watt(?)! Same with Zagar and Cook although if Cook continues to ride like he did in the playoffs then you might have a point! woryna is the worry king will be ok King needs to improve his form as a 3rd heatleader, didnt do a great job in the role last year. I will say he has it in him to do the job though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Id prefer KK and Harris over Holder and Buzckowski/Andersen/Watt(?)! Same with Zagar and Cook although if Cook continues to ride like he did in the playoffs then you might have a point! Coventry and Poole about level. BV definitely have the best top 2 in the league. Edit - unless Swindon keep Zengota then I would say Swindon do. Edited December 1, 2015 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Coventry and Poole about level. BV definitely have the best top 2 in the league. Edit - unless Swindon keep Zengota then I would say Swindon do. Zengota?? He's a 3rd heatleader tops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 KK and Harris won the EL pairs in 2010. Since then the EL has been watered down season after season. As a pair I'd say they're easily the best in the league. After Doyle whatever other is better than either? Maybe Zagar but thats border line, nobody has two riders better than them and most won't have 1! Thats this teams one saving grace, a brilliant top two you can rely on for TRs and heat 15s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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