NeilWatson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 How many OAPs attend the storm meetings then? It's a single-tier admission policy......... Nineteen or ninety, they're a fan! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Persecution? Don't be ridiculous. We have had a single-tier admission policy for the Coventry Storm since its inception without any criticism at all, our admissions policy for 2016 simply extends this to the senior team. No doubt the Coventry Storm entrance is considerably cheaper, and affordability is everything. There are a lot of elderly people worse off than others and struggle to make ends meet., .To put their admission up is the decision you've made. Hope it don't back fire on you. but time will tell.... Point of thought though!!!: For every elderly person who stays away next year, you will be need 4 people to pay extra to equal what you received previously That's 20% drop in attendance.......If that figure is a drop of, say 25% then you are on a loser......... Lose money; lose attendance; lose spin-offs; lose atmosphere. That's a big gamble...... in a time when you need all the support you can get............ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Whatever the rights and wrongs of concessions for the over 60's the reality is that they are commonly provided by those who are competing for the entertainment dollar. It is a risk taking away something many fans have enjoyed and benefited from but no doubt Coventry are hoping that most of those fans, who will be long time dedicated supporters, will grin and bear it, whatever their feelings about the way their loyalty is being repaid. My guess is that the numbers have been worked out and that the calculations are that the overall takings at the turnstiles will be increased. As for the ignorant point about the state pension being a benefit all such pensions are, for current pensioners, calculated on contributions made over a lifetime. The pension paid out is a percentage of the maximum entitlement based on the number of years you have contributed. In effect you have paid for your pension just as you do for a private pension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's a single-tier admission policy......... Nineteen or ninety, they're a fan! That was not the Question!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 From the Bees website COVENTRY have moved to bring former World No.2 Krzysztof Kasprzak back to Brandon for the 2016 season.The Polish star will be going into his third spell with the Buildbase Bees, having played a vital role in the dramatic title triumph of 2010.His second spell in 2013, the last time he rode in the UK, was less memorable in a struggling Coventry team although he still returns with a 7.97 average and the following year he was runner-up to Greg Hancock in the World Championship.He comes back to British racing to form a strong top spearhead at Brandon along with skipper Chris Harris, and it leaves Bees with one name to confirm to complete the team.Promoter Mick Horton said: "Almost every other club in the league has been after Krzysztof, but he wanted to come here and we've worked very hard to make it happen."When you look around the league, and especially with some of the riders who aren't coming back next season, this gives us a very strong top order, which is what I always said I wanted in the team."Krzysztof will probably start the season with the second-highest average of anyone in the league, and he was absolutely the best option for us. He is a World-class rider and it's only a year ago that he was second in the GP series."He is very keen to have a positive season with us and make up for 2013. He has a point to prove and we're now in a position where I wouldn't swap our heat-leader trio for any other in the league."The remaining team place is close to being finalised, and an announcement on that is expected in the near future. Awaits the opening of the can of worms... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 KK is a great signing in a weak league, will be the 2nd best rider in the league, and on a sub 8.00 average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 That was not the Question!!!!!! It's implicit in a single-tier admission policy that we don't know the status of individual fans - other than them being over 16........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I'm not to worried about the KK of 2013 (even if he was distinctly underwhelming that season) because the KK of 2013 should still score well in this weakened EL (we seem to use this phrase to compare against previous seasons far too often). I'm more worried about the KK of 2015. The fact is, if KK rides anything like he is capable of, he is more than capable of being amongst the top 3 or 4 riders in the league. For me, Doyle is the best heatleader, followed by Holder. If Zagar returns to BV, then he will be up there too. KK? Who knows? He's an enigma. But what other options were there? To be honest, I think with the lack of top level riders about, and Bees losing Hans Andersen (surely KK can't be as disappointing as Andersen was last year) we've done well. I suspect there will be teams out there that would do anything for a top 3 of KK, Harris and King. I would have liked to have seen Larsen back but, if he's on form, KK is a better rider than Larsen. It's that big 'if' again. How many points do we have left? Edited November 21, 2015 by G the Bee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's a single-tier admission policy......... Nineteen or ninety, they're a fan! Well said 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Good signing - assuming he isn't the one who competed in the SGPs last year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Oh I'm gonna love to see how this thread develops.........!! It's implicit in a single-tier admission policy that we don't know the status of individual fans - other than them being over 16........ You mean like most promotions you don't have a clue about the age demographics of your customer base?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm not to worried about the KK of 2013 (even if he was distinctly underwhelming that season) because the KK of 2013 should still score well in this weakened EL (we seem to use this phrase to compare against previous seasons far too often). I'm more worried about the KK of 2015. The fact is, if KK rides anything like he is capable of, he is more than capable of being amongst the top 3 or 4 riders in the league. For me, Doyle is the best heatleader, followed by Holder. If Zagar returns to BV, then he will be up there too. KK? Who knows? He's an enigma. But what other options were there? To be honest, I think with the lack of top level riders about, and Bees losing Hans Andersen (surely KK can't be as disappointing as Andersen was last year) we've done well. I suspect there will be teams out there that would do anything for a top 3 of KK, Harris and King. I would have liked to have seen Larsen back but, if he's on form, KK is a better rider than Larsen. It's that big 'if' again. How many points do we have left? 7.37 left. We now have our three heat-leaders and both double-uppers so the final signing will be a full-time EL second string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 i think KK is a decent signing and will prove to be able to at least maintain his average after his disaster of a season last year.We all know what he is capable of and good luck to him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Oh I'm gonna love to see how this thread develops.........!! You mean like most promotions you don't have a clue about the age demographics of your customer base?! I think they know exactly how many of each group have been " clicking " the turnstiles at Cov. That's why they have decided to hit the seniors with a 20% increase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 7.37 left. We now have our three heat-leaders and both double-uppers so the final signing will be a full-time EL second string. Davey Watt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Oh I'm gonna love to see how this thread develops.........!! You mean like most promotions you don't have a clue about the age demographics of your customer base?! Not sure how you come to that conclusion. I know exactly our demographic for EL attendances, as that information was collected via the turnstiles. It was not for the Storm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authorised Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 On the pricing structure, going to a single tier pricing system is a step backwards in my opinion. I am an "Elite League snob", in that I do prefer top tier racing to the Premier League. Although with the weakening of the leagues, the gap reduces season by season. Having attended the Premier League Grand Final between Glasgow v Edinburgh - both legs - you couldn't help but be impressed by a multi-tier and multi-day pricing structure. You could get your tickets on your phone. If you bought on the Monday, it was cheaper than the Thursday or Friday and so on. There was none of this paying at the gate and then getting by ticket ripped by a second line of defence (very needless) at Coventry. I am guessing that the line of thought is that old people will come to Brandon anyway, regardless of the product - something full paying adults have had to support for years with price increases. I would want a multi-tier system creating not single tier system. The benefit is more people will buy in the week (getting to the bank quicker), less cash on site, fewer people will make that call on the day regarding the weather, and guess what......buying tickets online is the NORM for under 30s, you are getting into their lifestyles. I am not a pensioner. This isn't for the kids for the future, this current regime cannot even say where the team will be racing in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Not sure how you come to that conclusion. I know exactly our demographic for EL attendances, as that information was collected via the turnstiles. It was not for the Storm. Then, as others have said, you've made a very brave decision - one that I hope for your sake doesn't prove to be a wrong 'un!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 7.37 left. We now have our three heat-leaders and both double-uppers so the final signing will be a full-time EL second string. Interesting. Kenni Larsen is on 7.26. But I suspect he's on that elusive heat leader list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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