Game On Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I can see us going with exactly the same team with Barker swapped for Hans unfortunately. Would be nice to get a decent heatleader to partner Harris and Kylmo, but I can't see who would come over. Larsen would be my ideal choice. I'm not sure I would have Kylmo or King back as I can't see any improvement in them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Seems strange to me that Hans drops his average by 2 points or so to a convenient 6,5ish, and then before the season officially ends announces he is signing for Poole the next year, how long has this been in the offing, not suggesting anything naturally! You’re not saying it but you are basically implying he is a cheat, if that is the logic his team mates must have been in on the act as well because if they had performed to the same level Andersen did in the PO SF first leg the chances are Poole wouldn’t have been in the final. My brain doesn’t twist the way it has to in order to buy into such conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) The issue was we should have bailed him out around June time! No, we should have got him to sign a 2016 contract in June! I think it's possible, would be good to have him swap with Garrity all season for reserve. Howarth is really not that good. I wouldn't go any where near him personally. You’re not saying it but you are basically implying he is a cheat, if that is the logic his team mates must have been in on the act as well because if they had performed to the same level Andersen did in the PO SF first leg the chances are Poole wouldn’t have been in the final. My brain doesn’t twist the way it has to in order to buy into such conspiracy theories. That make no sense what so ever! Coventrys issue is they were 2 points short of the limit and had a guest who score 2 points less than you'd expect and R/R barely score anything at Poole. Build up that 2 extra points and it's 4 points more for Cov over the 2 legs, also 4 less for Poole. Thats an 8 point swing. Add in that Lindgren (a guest) under performed and you'd have expected about 3 more, thats a 6 point swing. Look at the result now with that 14 point swing. Still not enough but makes it closer. Nothing to do with riders under perfoming (other than a guest) and all to do with the team not being strong enough. Edited October 22, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 That make no sense what so ever! Coventrys issue is they were 2 points short of the limit and had a guest who score 2 points less than you'd expect and R/R barely score anything at Poole. Build up that 2 extra points and it's 4 points more for Cov over the 2 legs, also 4 less for Poole. Thats an 8 point swing. Add in that Lindgren (a guest) under performed and you'd have expected about 3 more, thats a 6 point swing. Look at the result now with that 14 point swing. Still not enough but makes it closer. Nothing to do with riders under perfoming (other than a guest) and all to do with the team not being strong enough. Across both legs then…. The insinuation that a rider who top scored against a side over two legs in a Play Off Semi Final was in on the act and joining that side next season is ridiculous, that was the point. If a rider is seemingly “at it” to the point they would reduce their average across a season, what is another two meetings to them….two meetings that could genuinely influence the side they are about to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleoleole Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Its the first NSSC meeting at our new venue tonight, start 8pm. Everybody is welcome. There is a small charge of £3 for non-members and all money raised goes to Neil Vatchers' Young Lions. Guest night update Unfortunately Jason Garrity can no longer make our guest night but Adam Roynon will still be interviewing Danny King and James Sarjeant. (Jason Garrity r/r !) Hope to see you there! Please note our new venue: Brandon Club, Main Street, Brandon, Coventry CV8 3HW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Across both legs then…. The insinuation that a rider who top scored against a side over two legs in a Play Off Semi Final was in on the act and joining that side next season is ridiculous, that was the point. If a rider is seemingly “at it” to the point they would reduce their average across a season, what is another two meetings to them….two meetings that could genuinely influence the side they are about to join. Ah, with you now! As it is, I agree, there no way he was on the fiddle. He just had a crap season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think it's possible, would be good to have him swap with Garrity all season for reserve. It would be madness when there are the likes of Barker under 5 (PL conversion) and Anders Thomson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Would Harris Larsen Sunstrom Barker Thomson Garrity A n other work average wise Edited October 22, 2015 by kingbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Would Harris Larsen Sunstrom Barker Thomson Garrity A n other work average wise Assuming the numebr 7 has a 3 point average then you're 2 points short of the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Assuming the numebr 7 has a 3 point average then you're 2 points short of the limit.not good then can't be 2 points under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 So what is the point of having the lads ride at reserve for 4 meetings to get an average. If it had been worked out on thier averages that they scored this year they would have better averages than most heat leaders, with some of the scoring 15 points or there around many weeks. Just hope that they don't open the door and let overseas riders come as reserves again, some did the job but the majority of them where just plain rubbish and should never have sat across a speedway bike ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Just rough calculations but I come up with Doyle Harris Kylmakorpi Barker Thomson Garrity Sarjeant Get a genuine number 1, solid 2nd and 3rd heat leader, two 2nd strings who should improve their average quite a bit and a strong reserve pairing. Plus Thomson would drop to reserve after 4 meetings. As I said might not fit just a rough idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Just rough calculations but I come up with Doyle Harris Kylmakorpi Barker Thomson Garrity Sarjeant Get a genuine number 1, solid 2nd and 3rd heat leader, two 2nd strings who should improve their average quite a bit and a strong reserve pairing. Plus Thomson would drop to reserve after 4 meetings. As I said might not fit just a rough idea. I like that Woz, so it's bound not to fit Edited October 22, 2015 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Just rough calculations but I come up with Doyle Harris Kylmakorpi Barker Thomson Garrity Sarjeant Get a genuine number 1, solid 2nd and 3rd heat leader, two 2nd strings who should improve their average quite a bit and a strong reserve pairing. Plus Thomson would drop to reserve after 4 meetings. As I said might not fit just a rough idea. Looks ok but when was the last time we had a proper number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Looks ok but when was the last time we had a proper number 1 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 2016 Let's hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 With Barkers PL conversation rate under 5 he has to be a serious consideration. Barker is an asset of ours on a 4.8 average. We've already let AJ go, we've already lost out on Hans (ok not ours but still) lets not lose Barker too. Can't have two Tier 1 reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Can't have two Tier 1 reserves Just put one into the 1-5 so they'll no longer be a draft rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Can't have two Tier 1 reserves The first four to select in round 2 can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Just rough calculations but I come up with Doyle Harris Kylmakorpi Barker Thomson Garrity Sarjeant Get a genuine number 1, solid 2nd and 3rd heat leader, two 2nd strings who should improve their average quite a bit and a strong reserve pairing. Plus Thomson would drop to reserve after 4 meetings. As I said might not fit just a rough idea. who told me last week Harris was a genuine number 1 why would you need another lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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