John Leslie Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 This "local need" stuff sounds like a load of cobblers to get away with demolishing the stadium with as little opposition as possible. Once the stadium is demolished, the plans for a new stadium will fall through. The common sense way of looking at it would be for the council to say "You can't demolish Brandon until you provide a new stadium to fulfill the local need" Has any planning permission been granted to build on Brandon? If not, I'd still be lobbying the council to refuse any planning permission until a replacement stadium is in place. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Surely its obvious to Rugby Council that Speedway and Stox cant use Brandon next year so local need must be there. I believe houses at Brandon is included in Rugbys local plan. If the developers put in a planning application for Brandon that'll probably help the case for a new stadium.as far as I know there is no houses planned for Brandon . Rugby council are building 6.000 houses on the old BT site on the A5 plus schools and a new rail station just outside Hillmorton .if housing was needed in Brandon why was planning refused for the market garden opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) as far as I know there is no houses planned for Brandon . Rugby council are building 6.000 houses on the old BT site on the A5 plus schools and a new rail station just outside Hillmorton .if housing was needed in Brandon why was planning refused for the market garden opposite Just had a look but cant find it. I must be wrong! Edited February 12, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If Coventry council are involved, lets hope we don't have a rail link built into the plans after the Ricoh fiasco. If Sandhu finances the new stadium/track in field, how long before he sells that for houses ? How many of the Stox fans went to Brandon because it was a half decent stadium ? Will they travel in the same numbers to a Somerset type setup ? Maybe if we called ourselves the " Coventry Student Accommodation Bees" we may stand a chance of getting it built. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) This "local need" stuff sounds like a load of cobblers to get away with demolishing the stadium with as little opposition as possible. Once the stadium is demolished, the plans for a new stadium will fall through. The common sense way of looking at it would be for the council to say "You can't demolish Brandon until you provide a new stadium to fulfill the local need" Has any planning permission been granted to build on Brandon? If not, I'd still be lobbying the council to refuse any planning permission until a replacement stadium is in place. Sandhu no longer has anything to do with the stadium, he sold it in 2014. One condition of the sale was for the stadium to continue until November 2016. All sports are getting kicked out then by the new owners/developers.If Coventry council are involved, lets hope we don't have a rail link built into the plans after the Ricoh fiasco. If Sandhu finances the new stadium/track in field, how long before he sells that for houses ? How many of the Stox fans went to Brandon because it was a half decent stadium ? Will they travel in the same numbers to a Somerset type setup ? Maybe if we called ourselves the " Coventry Student Accommodation Bees" we may stand a chance of getting it built. The rail issue was down to London Midland saying they didnt have the carriages but now all of a sudden they've found some now Wasps have stumped up cash to help run a Matchday service. The new site it seems cant have houses built on it. The last point about a Somerset type stadium, it could be but doubt it. They want a stadium that can hold crowds for the big stock car meetings and Heaver has already spoken about needing better facilities for sponsorship and regular fans. It won't be a Belle Vue thats for sure! Would be interested to know how much Sandhu sold Brandon for. Edited February 12, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Sandhu no longer has anything to do with the stadium, he sold it in 2014. But isn't he on record saying he will do everything in his power to ensure the bees fans will have a new track? One would assume this site and move has his backing unless he was just giving a smoke screen to the bees fans to look good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 But isn't he on record saying he will do everything in his power to ensure the bees fans will have a new track? One would assume this site and move has his backing unless he was just giving a smoke screen to the bees fans to look good? Yes the new stadium is being funded by him it seems. We only learned yesterday he did in fact sold the stadium in 2014 with a promise that Bees and Stox can run at Brandon until 2016. Now it seems fairly certain the new owners/developers want us out by November so they are now pressing ahead with the new site. I'm sure they've known the site for a while as it seems plans have been drawn up, next for them is to announce where exactly it is and show us the plans. As we know there is a long way to go but at least it seems there is a will to get a stadium built. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Sandhu no longer has anything to do with the stadium, he sold it in 2014. One condition of the sale was for the stadium to continue until November 2016. All sports are getting kicked out then by the new owners/developers. The rail issue was down to London Midland saying they didnt have the carriages but now all of a sudden they've found some now Wasps have stumped up cash to help run a Matchday service. The new site it seems cant have houses built on it. The last point about a Somerset type stadium, it could be but doubt it. They want a stadium that can hold crowds for the big stock car meetings and Heaver has already spoken about needing better facilities for sponsorship and regular fans. It won't be a Belle Vue thats for sure! Would be interested to know how much Sandhu sold Brandon for. I thought I read some where that Sandu had bought it himself and formed a new company with his family ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 This "local need" thing just sounds like a load of BS which will give them a get-out clause to not build a stadium. And if the stadium was sold in 2014 why hasn't anything been done about a new one until now? Proceed with caution Bees fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Who said nothing's been done until now? Plenty has gone on behind the scenes, as shown by this latest news release 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Midland Red, on 12 Feb 2016 - 4:26 PM, said: Who said nothing's been done until now? Plenty has gone on behind the scenes, as shown by this latest news release There will be two groups GROUP A - will be the ones the " it will never happen ,were doomed " negative mentality & GROUP B - Will be the ones who look on the bright side & see it as a new beginning & are full of positivity .its called human nature I think , so pick a camp & put up yer tent Bees fans ..& you know what one of them will be right !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 There will be two groups GROUP A - will be the ones the " it will never happen ,were doomed " negative mentality & GROUP B - Will be the ones who look on the bright side & see it as a new beginning & are full of positivity .its called human nature I think , so pick a camp & put up yer tent Bees fans ..& you know what one of them will be right !!I don't think group A is being negative, more realistic tbh! You need physical evidence ie. Builders, bricks etc before you should believe them Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Who said nothing's been done until now? Plenty has gone on behind the scenes, as shown by this latest news release Oh yes, it's only taken two years to find some land that's a five minute drive from the current stadium. Then perhaps another two years for planing approval then another two to get it built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I thought I read some where that Sandu had bought it himself and formed a new company with his family ? Yes. Would be interesting to know who does own the stadium now. Wasn't one of Sandhu's partners being chased by HMRC for considerable amounts of money? Rumour at the time was that Sandhu had set up a new company and "sold" the stadium to himself to stop HMRC getting hold of it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I hope that this will all turn out the way we all hope. However, events at Reading and now Swindon mean I will believe it when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I thought I read some where that Sandu had bought it himself and formed a new company with his family ? According to the Telegraph Investin Brandon Limited are the company. Sandhu isnt listed in that company, never has been and none of his family either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think it is understandable to react to this news with a dose of cynicism due to the other tracks that have withered away. Planning consent is obviously a complicated matter and the "local need "requirement does seem potty when we have been evicted from Brandon at the end of the season. But these rules are in place to protect all of us from inappropriate developments . I am remaining positive ,as before I thought we were just going to fade away,I am sure a lot of preparotry work with the planning application has been done reading Jeremy heavers statement. Lets hope for a positive outcome but remember the realists maxim," Talk is cheap stadiums cost money" Up the bees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think it is understandable to react to this news with a dose of cynicism due to the other tracks that have withered away. Planning consent is obviously a complicated matter and the "local need "requirement does seem potty when we have been evicted from Brandon at the end of the season. But these rules are in place to protect all of us from inappropriate developments . I am remaining positive ,as before I thought we were just going to fade away,I am sure a lot of preparotry work with the planning application has been done reading Jeremy heavers statement. Lets hope for a positive outcome but remember the realists maxim," Talk is cheap stadiums cost money" Up the bees Assuming the track/stadia get the go ahead, would it be such a chore to ride at Leicester for part of the 2017 season? Better than not riding, and just waiting for the stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think if people could see progress in the proposed Eco stadium, a year at Leicester could be entertained. If it drags on beyond that then I could see it being more difficult to maintain the support. 18 months from now to sort out the planning minefield and then 9 months to build a stadium an optimistic timetable but could be done if there is a will to achieve it. Dealing with three local authorities is not ideal though . Up the bees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Assuming the track/stadia get the go ahead, would it be such a chore to ride at Leicester for part of the 2017 season? Better than not riding, and just waiting for the stadium? Horton seems to have the impression of getting a track down and put a temporary stand or two up while they work on other areas of the stadium. Me personally id rather they take there time and get it right and if that means going to Leicester for half or a full season then so be it. Edited February 12, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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