Poole Vs The Aces For The Title

[sparkafag]

Fair play to Starke he is probably the success story of the EL draft system. When he raced for Berwick a few years ago he looked ok but he was very raw, he now looks like a rider who is more than capable of holding his own in the PL and has a future in the sport.

[Tsunami]

3.4 PROTESTS AND APPEALS

 

3.4.3 PROCEDURE AND TIME LIMIT FOR PROTESTS

a, A protest must be in writing, relate to a single issue only, be accompanied by the correct fee and signed by the person directly affected

 

c, A protest (which may initially be verbal and with a promise to pay the fee) concerning a specific Heat must be made before the start of the next Heat

 

3.4.4 PROTEST FEE

The protest fee is £50......

 

3.4.5 HEARING A PROTEST

The Referee must make a decision on a Protest presented during a Meeting, judged according to the provisions of the SCB Regulations, it's Appendices and any SR's

 

3.4.6 EFFECT OF THE DECISION OF THE REFEREE

 

The decision of the Referee on the determination of the outcome and/or penalties is immediate.

 

 

Taken from the 2015 Speedway Regulations

Edited October 1, 2015 by Tsunami

[SCB]

Taken from the 2012 Speedway Regulations

It's 2015

 

But using them rules, it seems it's ok. 3.4.3 c) Mark Lemon has already said he spoke to the referee

 

 

Now using the 2015 rulebook.

 

 

3.4.3 PROCEDURE AND TIME LIMIT FOR PROTESTS

a. A Protest must be in writing, relate to a single issue only, be accompanied by

the correct fee and signed by the person directly affected.

b. A Protest against the legality of a Team Line-Up within the following timescale:

i) For Team Line-Ups notified / changed at any time up to 28 hours before the

Meeting Start Time, a Protest must be lodged at least 24 hours prior to the

Meeting Start Time.

ii) For Team Line-Ups notified less than 28 hours before the Meeting Start Time,

a Protest must be lodged within 4 hours of the notification being made, and in

all cases, no later than 1 hour prior to the Meeting Start Time.

c. A Protest (which may initially be verbal with a promise to pay the fee)

concerning a specific Heat must be made before the start of the next Heat.

d. A Protest concerning the Final Heat must be made within 5 minutes of the finish

of that Heat.

3.4.7 RIGHT OF APPEAL

The provisions concerning Appeals against SCB decisions including disciplinary

decisions incurring one of the penalties stated in SR 3.2 are as follows: -

a) Against a decision of the Referee, following a Protest, to the SCB Prime Officer

Against a decision of the SCB Prime Officer to either the SCB Court or ACU

(COE) – as advised.

c) Against the decision of the SCB Court or ACU (COE) to the ACU (FTA)

3.4.8 PROCEDURE AND TIME LIMITS FOR THE LODGING OF APPEALS

3.4.8.1 Appeals must be submitted in writing and signed only by the person directly

concerned.

3.4.8.2 Appeals against a decision of the Referee must be presented in writing to the SCB

Prime Officer within 24 hours of the closure of the Meeting, refer to a single subject

only and be accompanied by the correct appeal fee.

3.4.8.3 The time limit for lodging a Statement of Appeal against the decision:

Of the Referee to the SCB Prime Officer 24 hours

Of the SCB Prime Officer to the SCB Court or ACU (COE) 5 days

Of the SCB Court or ACU (COE) to the ACU (FTA) 5 days

Of the BSPA to the SCB 5 days

Of the SCB or BSPA GC to the Panel of Adjudicators (POA) 5 days

Of the ACU to the National Sport Dispute Resolution Panel 5 days

[ouch]

There is zero chance of The Aces getting anywhere with this no matter how wrong it is.

 

For any newbies we where once kicked out of a cup final as points we gained for RR were deducted because we didn't have the missing riders name .................. printed in the programme!

 

No I'm not kidding.

[Phil The Ace]

It's bollox about cook and these additives etc. He is scrutinised at every track he goes to but yet nothing illegal is found. His father and his team work vigorously behind the scenes to make sure Craig is given the best LEGAL equipment he could possibly get. And these silly rumours is an insult to them and Craig himself.

 

It's no coincidence that since Ashley Holloway and Craig have found the right set up for cook that he as improved massively.

 

Craig as always had it in him to be a top rider and he's now on the verge.

[Mr Bjerre]

Cook is just moved on a level when he was in the pack last night he wasn't so clear. Out front with fresh air he was gone but that's down to choosing his own lines, would love to see him at Poole but will never happen.

Would love to see cook at poole too and it could happen sooner rather than later

[Starman2006]

It's 2015

 

But using them rules, it seems it's ok. 3.4.3 c) Mark Lemon has already said he spoke to the referee

 

 

Now using the 2015 rulebook.

 

Mark Lemon was stood with us all in the bar last night, there was no animosity whatsoever. Soo thats just P'd on your fire .. Have a good Winter...

[SCB]

Mark Lemon was stood with us all in the bar last night, there was no animosity whatsoever. Soo thats just P'd on your fire .. Have a good Winter...

I'm sure there wasn't. You seem to be missing that this is not an issue with Poole, it's with the SCB and the referee.

[Ace no.5]

There is zero chance of The Aces getting anywhere with this no matter how wrong it is.

 

For any newbies we where once kicked out of a cup final as points we gained for RR were deducted because we didn't have the missing riders name .................. printed in the programme!

 

No I'm not kidding.

My dad told me about what I'm assuming is the same thing just the other day. The way he explained it I thought the rider had declared himself fit to ride an hour before the meeting but as his name was in the programme in italics (for r/r), all his points were deducted... Thus we lost the cup final to Reading I think it was, after overcoming a large first leg deficit?

[SUPERACE]

Would love to see cook at poole too and it could happen sooner rather than later

Cook wants to stay at Belle Vue. So be surprised if he wasnt.

[Ace no.5]

From everything I know about Cookie he loves BV too much to want to leave. I'm 99% certain that he would want to stay and ride with us in our new stadium. I'm also 99% certain that the club will want him to stay. It was pretty clear for all to see during the playoffs how much he loves the club.

[BWitcher]

I'm just glad for Belle Vue's sake that Poole won the final.

 

Had Belle Vue beat them, on Pooles own patch, Ford would have taken his bricks back and the new stadium would have fallen down

[Agrotron]

Commiserations Belle Vue on what I thought was a sterling effort nice to see Cook coming over so passionately about his club its nice to see he is really proud to race in BV colours.

[woodenspoon]

My dad told me about what I'm assuming is the same thing just the other day. The way he explained it I thought the rider had declared himself fit to ride an hour before the meeting but as his name was in the programme in italics (for r/r), all his points were deducted... Thus we lost the cup final to Reading I think it was, after overcoming a large first leg deficit?

 

It was against Reading, Peter Ravn was the rider in question, and you are correct it was because his name was not printed in the programme. Reading waited until the meeting was over, BV had hammered them, and put in the protest, which the Ref upheld.

After this incident we stopped going to speedway for several years.

[Ace no.5]

That's the one 😉😣

[g13webb]

There were about 20 riders King's Lynn could pick from!

It just so happens that they picked a rider who decided to retire. The waiting was then related to Morris' fitness following his spill last year.

 

You're way off there. In the first pick, the numbers of available riders was much less than that. When it was eventually our turn, we choose the best rider of those that remained. Struggling like he had, he then decided to pack the sport up soon after. That shows how insecure he felt of his own ability..... The reason we then waited to name a replacement, was because there was little else to choose between the riders left on the list. We even thought of using Stokes from our NL team, but he would have been way out of his depth. When Morris returned from injury it was decided to chance him, hoping he would show some form.... but bearing in mind his own club decided against using him, the odds where stacked against us being successful.

[van wolfswinkel]

It's bollox about cook and these additives etc. He is scrutinised at every track he goes to but yet nothing illegal is found. His father and his team work vigorously behind the scenes to make sure Craig is given the best LEGAL equipment he could possibly get. And these silly rumours is an insult to them and Craig himself.

 

It's no coincidence that since Ashley Holloway and Craig have found the right set up for cook that he as improved massively.

 

Craig as always had it in him to be a top rider and he's now on the verge.

He was so bloody fast at Blunsdon he nearly ended up on the grass verge of the centre-green where I was standing! Would like to see the committed Cumbrian lad ride for Swindon, and he's an Englishman, so probably wouldn't suit Poole. The Dorset side have an excellent record, winning it 4 out if 5 years, the only defeat coming in 2012 when Swindon won it...had to get that one in!. They would have been dancing in the streets of Sandbanks last night. They know how to win speedway trophies in the south-west/Wessex, if only the combined counties Dorset/Wilts rugby team was that good!

[SteveLyric2]

(ps. Just a shame there was so much chit-chat about 'fuel additives' in the away pits!! Can't think who or what they meant?!! Apparantly similar comments at Somerset on Tuesday too!!)

 

Guess you went up to the rider concerned and said as much?

 

Sorry if my comment offended some.

 

I couldn't get near the pits unfortunately - its more restricted when Sky are there - but most of the 'chit-chat' was going around before the meeting and then again after heat 10 in the interval. Although I didn't mention any rider by name in my earlier comment, It was mentioned to one of Cook's main sponsors, CFS, who sit near me in the grandstand and who also sponsor Kyle and Paul. They shrugged!!

 

As I said I was only passing on what was being said and it was a shame to hear on an otherwise great night..

Edited October 1, 2015 by Skidder1

[ouch]

Hardly illegal kit, more like illegal set up to race. Forgive my ignorance but was Kennetts offence with the silencer performance enhancing? Would it make him faster?

It certainly did, he scored a fifteen point maximum and loaned his machine to another rider who also won. I improved his scoring potential similar to Newman in heat 12 with his illegal set up.

[Rob VDS]

It certainly did, he scored a fifteen point maximum and loaned his machine to another rider who also won. I improved his scoring potential similar to Newman in heat 12 with his illegal set up.

Well in that case it's hardly a precedent then. Not wearing goggles can hardly be compared to using performance enhancing equipment.