ColinMills Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Refs really shouldnt get decisions wrong in the biggest meeting in British speedway... With multiple cameras... If Bv questioned it, it would have taken seconds to review footage and therefore not causing all the fuss. start line technology?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Congratulations Poole and commiserations Belle Vue. A good final, well contested. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiC Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Set up to be replayed???? Edited September 30, 2015 by JimiC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 start line technology?? haha no, it was plain as day on the tv footage lolStill think Bv track man cost them more than Graham Flint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 To take points off of someone for not wearing goggles is ridiculous anyway, their have been plenty of riders who take them off after a lap anyway. The best team won over two legs. So What yout saying it's ok to break the rules,if so why have a rule book ? Â Â Did Poole win it or did the ref win it for Poole in the first leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumpiefan Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 congratulations to poole, best team over the season - seems fitting the team finishing top wins the play offs. Â if only belle vue had in 2005. Â the difference to me (apart from the huge points swing between the reserves) was poole had more riders who on the night(s) you fancied to win races, belle vue had zagar cook and nicholls in the home leg and probably just cook and nicholls tonight. Â very proud of the aces tonight tho. Â just regarding the goggles business, I would imagine most right minded fans would rather win a title on the track than via appeals etc but that said I have definitely seen teams' scores adjusted long after a meeting for all sorts of reasons so why didn't the scb act, even if was just to fine newman without a change to the scores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheart Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Perhaps Poole should send a winners medal to Graham Flint haha no, it was plain as day on the tv footage lolStill think Bv track man cost them more than Graham Flint. Â Did Meredith have a hand in the track prep ? I though it was the Skyman ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Well done to both teams for creating a close result tonight for the TV cameras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud pirate Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How stupid are most of these pathetic Poole haters belle veiws 5 1 in heat 15 was down to Poole already in party mode and not wanting to get injured in a meaningless race (like Darcy unfortunately did ) . do you really think magic would not of beat at least one of them if needed !! now can we just congratulate both teams on a Great final instead of destroying speedways reputation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Congratulations to Poole, worthy Champions. Â The Aces showed tremendous fighting spirit in both legs and I suspect surprised many, including Poole, by keeping the overall score so close. Our 1-5 easily outscored their Poole counterparts. The future is looking bright as we prepare to move into the new stadium. Â Well done to all of the riders involved in two excellent meetings. A particular well done to Cookie who showed his true ability. Many just look at his age and still don't appreciate that his progress has been dramatic when you realise he has only been riding for 6/7 years. Far less than many EL Draft Riders. If the points limit stays the same we can track the same 1-5 next year. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Congratulations to Poole, worthy Champions. Â The Aces showed tremendous fighting spirit in both legs and I suspect surprised many, including Poole, by keeping the overall score so close. Our 1-5 easily outscored their Poole counterparts. The future is looking bright as we prepare to move into the new stadium. Â Well done to all of the riders involved in two excellent meetings. A particular well done to Cookie who showed his true ability. Many just look at his age and still don't appreciate that his progress has been dramatic when you realise he has only been riding for 6/7 years. Far less than many EL Draft Riders. If the points limit stays the same we can track the same 1-5 next year. john Louis started at 28 and look what he achieved!...hope cookie kicks prem into touch, and he may also be the missing link gb needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) And I would have every one of them back 😊 Edited September 30, 2015 by Ace no.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Typical... very little congratulating Poole on a well earned title and instead being arseholes over a pair of goggles. Â Well done Poole and well done to Belle Vue. If it was down to playing by the rules and fair sportsmanship then Poole wouldn't be champions at heat 15 Â So Poole won by a rider breaking the rules and illegally gaining 2 points over the opposition and then win the championship by 2 points they illegally got, so how do Poole expect neutrals to congratulate them let alone belle vue fans who were robbed a run off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Perhaps Poole should send a winners medal to Graham Flint  Did Meredith have a hand in the track prep ? I though it was the Skyman ? Ronnie Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) I'm expecting a Poole win closer to 60 than 50.How silly you must feel... There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. It's lucky the Poole riders weren't thinking like that tonight or BV would have won it comfortably. Edited September 30, 2015 by Ace no.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bradford Ace Posted September 30, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Many congrats to Poole on their 3rd title in a row but we pushed em all the way which was great to see. Can't believe we gave the team that came top of the league & 13 point start & then a 10 point start & still took it to heat 29 from 30 so massive credit to my boys - big heart shown that's for sure. Â The goggle thing to me is ridiculous & isn't even worth talking about. Â We ultimately lost the tie at home by having a stinking start to Monday's meeting & because our otherwise excellent rsvs got thrashed 10-1 in the reserve races on their own track. Shame cos they've both been really good all season. Maybe it was big meeting nerves & hopefully with more experience they will have the chance to put it right. Â Thought it was a belting final tho, 2 great meetings with loads of passing & close racing so big well done to both teams. Â Poole will no doubt be the team to beat again in 2016 with Brady Kurtz probably coming into their team but we have a new stadium & track to look forward to after finishing runners up so for the 1st time in years it's actually quite good to be an Aces fan at the moment!!! Â Roll on next season!!! Edited September 30, 2015 by Bradford Ace 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If it was down to playing by the rules and fair sportsmanship then Poole wouldn't be champions at heat 15 Â So Poole won by a rider breaking the rules and illegally gaining 2 points over the opposition and then win the championship by 2 points they illegally got, so how do Poole expect neutrals to congratulate them let alone belle vue fans who were robbed a run off. Hang on surely the point of any penalty award is to put the position back as if the error had not been made (note error and not poole cheating). In this case the correct decision would have been to exclude kyle under the 2 minute ruling and the heat re-run with him off 15m. Therefore you still have a race with all 4 riders and all scorelines possible. Â Had it been a scenario where poole only had 1 rider then yes, it's perfectly reasonable to alter the heat score although how you decide on 3 all, 5-1 or 4-2 is beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tsunami Posted September 30, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Congratulations to the champions POOLE PIRATES. The Aces were a lot closer than I thought they would be, mainly due to their fightback on Monday night. Some cracking hairy riding in both legs, especially tonight when Magic or Cookie were involved, but overall it was a cracking advert for good competitive speedway. i think the crowd levels for both ties showed what the Play Offs mean to most fans. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Cookie what a star! I believe he will be in Ekstraliga next year. Guy is loving grippy tracks and knows how to gate. Rzeszow? Wroclaw (together with Tai)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 So What yout saying it's ok to break the rules,if so why have a rule book ? Â Â Did Poole win it or did the ref win it for Poole in the first leg. You can look at any number of things from the rulebook during a season. Â It also states 15.2.3 If there is a re-run where a disqualification is ordered, the 2-minute allowance shall be given following a 1-minute delay. Craig Cook had longer than that for heat 14 against Swindon in the league (he should have been disqualified from 15m). Swindon could then have possibly got a draw or win putting Belle Vue out the play-off's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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