Mark Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Newman shouldn't have ridden without goggles. That was his choice, the rule was broken, so he should be disqualified with his 2pts taken away. Heat becomes 3-3. That is not anti Poole but is pro the rules being adhered to. Same for both teams. Edited September 29, 2015 by marky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 In sport, the Americans like the word momentum and I believe that the last three heats saw a momentum shift towards The Aces. Our riders are more than capable of winning at Wimborne Road and with Honest Ron as track curator, maybe Poole will suffer with track conditions not being to their liking. Gomolski has been scoring well for Poole and if he is suffering from his fall, the door might be open for us to take full advantage of. Hopefully the reserves will perform to their full capability tomorrow - if they do, we have a great chance. Love your optimism. Hope I'm wrong but I'm thinking it will be something like 51-38.....or possibly even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Last heat decider with zagar cook holder janowski would be just too exciting..here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capone Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 riders have been excluded for the wong helmet colour....now that is really dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozrik Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How is title decided if the second leg is also tied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How is title decided if the second leg is also tied? It's decided in November after a hearing on Gogglegate. I hope Newman's points aren't removed from that race. He won them fair and square. I suspect he will receive a fine for racing without goggles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Good luck to both teams tonight - I hope it's a good meeting and BV turn up and go for it. Sadly I think it will be an easy victory for Poole with little resistance from BV - but stranger things can happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I suspect he will receive a fine for racing without goggles. If that's the case, and you are probably right, the referee should be fined big time. It's not just a matter of rules, it's a matter of safety, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 It's decided in November after a hearing on Gogglegate. I hope Newman's points aren't removed from that race. He won them fair and square. I suspect he will receive a fine for racing without goggles. Agree with that 100%, he did win the points fair & square. Hopefully tonight's meeting will be decided by more than 2 points on aggregate and we can put this to bed, yes it's filled the pages for 2 days but it was just an example of a rider so fired up to get the win for his team that he would have rode that race whatever item of his protective wear had malfunctioned. If the Belle Vue 1-7 show that kind of passion tonight then I'll be happy enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I am not criticisnig Kyle Newman at all but I wonder if he knew that it was breaking the rules not wearing them,,,,,, The clock was ticking and he lined up in time ... just.... It is the referee that got it wrong once he knows goggles weren't worn... On my way to Poole today...... hoping for a good match and the right result for Belle Vue. We may now be considered the underdogs...... but I am sure that Belle Vue will fight all the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 While he inadvertently broke the rules ,do you not think he would have pulled up if he had missed the gate!.Hope a decision is made before tonight's match though ,it's not too difficult one way or another.Personaly I would let the result stand and fine the rider .Should the ref not have ordered a rerun of the heat on the night if Lemon protested.Lemon probably heard Pearson ranting and raving about Newman without goggles before he done any thing about it.!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I am not criticisnig Kyle Newman at all but I wonder if he knew that it was breaking the rules not wearing them,,,,,, The clock was ticking and he lined up in time ... just.... It is the referee that got it wrong once he knows goggles weren't worn... On my way to Poole today...... hoping for a good match and the right result for Belle Vue. We may now be considered the underdogs...... but I am sure that Belle Vue will fight all the way. Why are you shouting? Have a great trip, here's hoping for an Aces triumph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 It's decided in November after a hearing on Gogglegate. I hope Newman's points aren't removed from that race. He won them fair and square. I suspect he will receive a fine for racing without goggles. He didn't win them fair and square he broke the rules! Its unbelievable how many people on here don't want the rules to be followed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How is title decided if the second leg is also tied? The two club mascots will line up at the start gate and run round the track for one lap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The two club mascots will line up at the start gate and run round the track for one lap. Will they need goggles! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 He didn't win them fair and square he broke the rules! Its unbelievable how many people on here don't want the rules to be followed. He deserves his points as no advantage to racing, but should be fined for not adhering to rules 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post home straight Posted September 30, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Well things don't look good for Poole. Belle Vue cruised to an easy zero point lead on Monday making it virtually unthinkable that Poole will be able to claw it back. Sadly for the Aces fans, Monday will live long in the memory of all genuine speedway fans due to the unrelenting cheating by the home side. Firstly we had Worrall's pathetic attempt to get the race stopped in heat two, followed by Nielsen attempting to get Starke disqualified in the re run.Later we saw the Belle Vue start marshall physically wrestling Newman's goggles away from him on the start line in heat 12, in a desperate attempt to disadvantage the Poole man. Additionally, Crump was sent round to the Poole pits in a cynical attempt to bore them into submission. Then, finding themselves 13 points behind, the despicable Aces went out and actually rode well in order to get themselves back into the meeting. It really was a disgraceful show from Belle Vue and I suspect that most of the fans are absolutely ashamed of their club ahead of tonights formality.Fortunately, my club, the world famous Poole Pirates would never sink to such depths to win a meeting, and for that I am grateful.Anyway, I must dash, I've got to phone the travel agent and book my flight to Rome. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I understand why some think he should keep the points and his determination to race shows his commitment to his club. However, an important safety rule was broken and he should have been excluded in accordance with the regulations. Any other result makes the authorities complicit in ignoring their own rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Elephant Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Amended post Edited September 30, 2015 by Undercover Elephant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Well things don't look good for Poole. Belle Vue cruised to an easy zero point lead on Monday making it virtually unthinkable that Poole will be able to claw it back. Sadly for the Aces fans, Monday will live long in the memory of all genuine speedway fans due to the unrelenting cheating by the home side. Firstly we had Worrall's pathetic attempt to get the race stopped in heat two, followed by Nielsen attempting to get Starke disqualified in the re run. Later we saw the Belle Vue start marshall physically wrestling Newman's goggles away from him on the start line in heat 12, in a desperate attempt to disadvantage the Poole man. Additionally, Crump was sent round to the Poole pits in a cynical attempt to bore them into submission. Then, finding themselves 13 points behind, the despicable Aces went out and actually rode well in order to get themselves back into the meeting. It really was a disgraceful show from Belle Vue and I suspect that most of the fans are absolutely ashamed of their club ahead of tonights formality. Fortunately, my club, the world famous Poole Pirates would never sink to such depths to win a meeting, and for that I am grateful. Anyway, I must dash, I've got to phone the travel agent and book my flight to Rome. Best post on the thread! Brilliant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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