Starman2006 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Welcome to the most hated club in British speedway #piratepride DW #43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Correct. The rule that excludes riders for falling off had an effect on the result. The same s the rule that allows double points when 10 behind did. It's ok. I know what I meant. Â Don't blame Newman. Blame the ref for letting the race start. Clearly a health and safety issue, but no advantage gained from it so why try and get the points removed? He was a big danger and the ref should of stopped the race and the fined him . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 He was a big danger and the ref should of stopped the race and the fined him . But he didn't, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Should the start marshall not have delayed the start?? He is the one putting the riders in place and acknowledging all are ready. Newman clearly wasn't so why put them under orders? BWitcher will probably claim that the Start Marshall supports Poole. Desperate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 He was a big danger and the ref should of stopped the race and the fined him . The ref shouldn't have started the race in the first place. Â Newman should have been made to put goggles on and would then probably have been excluded on tbe 2 minutes rule. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Welcome to the most hated club in British speedway  #piratepride DW #43 if your the most hated club, you doing something right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Newman's points should be removed. He should be blamed - there is no way he could have had his eyes open during that race and was a danger to everyone. Can't believe some people are treating this so lightly. Riding at 70mph into a cloud of shale with no eye protection is insane. But yes, the ref / start marshall in particular were disgraceful. It could have been a terrible advert for Speedway, ridiculous. Â That said, Poole were incredibly lucky early on and did very well to keep it to a draw. So hats off to them but they will get it tougher on Wednesday. Â Â Â Â 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Pillock! It's an item of equipment ffs! I expect you don't think they need crash helmets either provided he didn't gain an advantage. Shiit for brains or what. Blimey. You're a bit aggressive aren't you? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Newman's points should be removed. He should be blamed - there is no way he could have had his eyes open during that race and was a danger to everyone. Can't believe some people are treating this so lightly. Riding at 70mph into a cloud of shale with no eye protection is insane. But yes, the ref / start marshall in particular were disgraceful. It could have been a terrible advert for Speedway, ridiculous. Â Â Correct, its down to the start marshall and the referee. So you cannot lay the blame at Kyles door. End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Didnt gain an advantage? He shouldn't have been in the race so being in the race was a bloody huge advantage! He should have been made to put goggles on, I agree. Â But points wise he was at a disadvantage racing without goggles I would imagine. Â Ref should not have started the race. But he did. I don't see why points should be taken away, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Correct, its down to the start marshall and the referee. So you cannot lay the blame at Kyles door. End of. Â But people (rightly) blame Pedersen and Doyle for dangerous racing, so what's the difference? Certainly looks like disregard for the two riders behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 But he didn't, end of. If Poole get away with not losing newmans points then the rule book might aswel be binned. Â I think Newman,start Marshall and the ref should face the SCB for putting other riders at risk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Â I think Newman,start Marshall and the ref should face the SCB for putting other riders at risk. This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 If Poole get away with not losing newmans points then the rule book might aswel be binned. Â I think Newman,start Marshall and the ref should face the SCB for putting other riders at risk. was peter Collins putting riders at risk when he completed a race with a broken handlebar? or when riders lose a steel shoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 was peter Collins putting riders at risk when he completed a race with a broken handlebar? or when riders lose a steel shoe? If it happened before the race then yes absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I don't see why Newman's points should be removed from that race. It's not as if he gained an advantage. Â Goggles being worn would be a safety issue and the ref should not have let the race go, but once he did I don't see it as an issue really. Â Newman lucky though, because if the ref had insisted he put his goggles on he probably would have been excluded on 2 minutes. Â Of course he was gaining an advantage! He wasn't ready to race under the 2 mins rule and as such should have been excluded and started from 15 metres back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 was peter Collins putting riders at risk when he completed a race with a broken handlebar? or when riders lose a steel shoe? Losing a steel shoe and riding with no goggles is completely different, he broke the rules, let's see what happens before Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Whether Newman was brave/silly to ride without goggles and his points from that race should/shouldn't be deducted mustn't be allowed to detract from the fact that BV fell into the 'let's alter the track 'cos Poole like it slick trap'. Silly, silly, silly. ? Coventry did this too! Stop worrying about us and prepare the track to how your riders like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Two things disappoint me tonight. Â One is the amount of rubbish on this thread. Is this the most witless unfactaul banter or just some kind of poor attempt at trolling. Â Secondly, I am disappointed with the Belle Vue fans in the stadium to keep booing the Poole riders all night at every opportunity. They risk there lives to give people an exciting form of entertainment and all people can do is act moronic. Â A lot of people have some serious growing up to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Â Don't blame Newman. Blame the ref for letting the race start. Clearly a health and safety issue, but no advantage gained from it so why try and get the points removed? Â Again, he wasn't ready to race under the 2mins, so should have been excluded. Massive advantage. BWitcher will probably claim that the Start Marshall supports Poole. Desperate. Â ??? Â What are you wittering on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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