g13webb Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I just cannot understand why there are still a lot of bitter people on here still moanoing that we won the league, again. We are now into November, will the few still be complaining come March. Untill other promoters get their heads out of the sand start to speculate and look for improving riders we will make it 8 by next October. Then 10 will clearly be in sight. It's all very well, you keeping count of the so-called successes Poole have attained, but do you keep up to date, with information on the number of supporters lost to the sport, simply because they were fed-up with all the rule breaking and underhandedness going on, to achieve those successes???? To me that's far more important....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 It's all very well, you keeping count of the so-called successes Poole have attained, but do you keep up to date, with information on the number of supporters lost to the sport, simply because they were fed-up with all the rule breaking and underhandedness going on, to achieve those successes???? To me that's far more important....... If that were true and if Matt Ford/Poole were indeed at fault all the time, then one would expect Poole's attendances to fall, whereas in fact they have at worst remained stable and for the past 2 years shown an increase. Surprisingly, if what you say has any factual basis then all the other EL teams would experience low attendances when Poole visit - which they don't!! All EL clubs have their best attendances (weather permitting) whenever Poole are the opponents. Just ask Mick Horton, Terry Russell, Jon Cook, Chris Morton etc etc. Any fall off in attendances at other clubs is down to a combination of poor facilities, poor value for money and a lack of local marketing/promotion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 If that were true and if Matt Ford/Poole were indeed at fault all the time, then one would expect Poole's attendances to fall, whereas in fact they have at worst remained stable and for the past 2 years shown an increase. Surprisingly, if what you say has any factual basis then all the other EL teams would experience low attendances when Poole visit - which they don't!! All EL clubs have their best attendances (weather permitting) whenever Poole are the opponents. Just ask Mick Horton, Terry Russell, Jon Cook, Chris Morton etc etc. Any fall off in attendances at other clubs is down to a combination of poor facilities, poor value for money and a lack of local marketing/promotion!! Poor deluded one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 If that were true and if Matt Ford/Poole were indeed at fault all the time, then one would expect Poole's attendances to fall, whereas in fact they have at worst remained stable and for the past 2 years shown an increase. Surprisingly, if what you say has any factual basis then all the other EL teams would experience low attendances when Poole visit - which they don't!! All EL clubs have their best attendances (weather permitting) whenever Poole are the opponents. Just ask Mick Horton, Terry Russell, Jon Cook, Chris Morton etc etc. Any fall off in attendances at other clubs is down to a combination of poor facilities, poor value for money and a lack of local marketing/promotion!! Living in your dream world there im afraid. I go to Ipswich 4 or 5 times a season and i absolutly cherry pick the teams i go to watch , usually Edinburgh, Glasgow, for example. Im not wasting my money to see my team thrash a poor Rye House for example. Other elite leagues teams attendances are falling and its a result of a few factors and yes fans are lost to the sport because of some of the things Poole have done. To say otherwise is totally deluded and blinkered. And yes when Poole visit they are usually a big draw because they are the team to beat, so of course Lakesides biggest crowd will be against Poole rather than Wolves. I would reckon Pooles biggest crowds are against Coventry and Swindon and less against Lakeside and Wolves. It stands to reason so i have no idea what point you are trying to make re crowds. Pooles attendances dont fall because they are winning its quite black and white. 2009 when Poole were struggling the crowds dropped off markedly. I agree other promotions dont help themselves but as i say the way Poole speedway have conducted themselves has an impact on the number of fans that go to speedway. They are by no means the sole cause but they are a factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Poor deluded one! Unfortunately for you he's not. He's actually spot on, but i don't expect you or the other sad deluded clown above who's still scanning the thread to make up some more rubbish to believe it. Its amazing how popular we are at Poole, just think, when we win the league again next season for the fourth time on the trotski, we will be even more popular... Edited November 16, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 If that were true and if Matt Ford/Poole were indeed at fault all the time, then one would expect Poole's attendances to fall, whereas in fact they have at worst remained stable and for the past 2 years shown an increase. Surprisingly, if what you say has any factual basis then all the other EL teams would experience low attendances when Poole visit - which they don't!! All EL clubs have their best attendances (weather permitting) whenever Poole are the opponents. Just ask Mick Horton, Terry Russell, Jon Cook, Chris Morton etc etc. Any fall off in attendances at other clubs is down to a combination of poor facilities, poor value for money and a lack of local marketing/promotion!! Wow! Has Starman hacked your account?! I always thought you were reasonably sane with your posts and discussions on here. Dear me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Wow! Has Starman hacked your account?! I always thought you were reasonably sane with your posts and discussions on here. Dear me! Looks as though Skidder's " brain washing" is taking effect. Edited November 16, 2015 by Dave Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Unfortunately for you he's not. He's actually spot on, but i don't expect you or the other sad deluded clown above who's still scanning the thread to make up some more rubbish to believe it. Its amazing how popular we are at Poole, just think, when we win the league again next season for the fourth time on the trotski, we will be even more popular... come on then fool quote me where im making stuff up. 1. I cherry pick the meetings i watch 2. Most elite league teams biggest attendance is against Poole 3. Poole are currently the biggest draw in the elite league for visiting fans. 4. Pooles biggest home crowds are against their nearest challengers (this season Coventry and Swindon) 5. Pooles lowest crowds are against poor teams (this season Lakeside and Wolves) 6. When Poole struggled in 2009 their crowds fell. 7. Poole are SOME of the reasons not ALL of the reason why people stop going. So could you highlight which of the 7 above statements are incorrect and made up please. Or will you simply not answer the question YET AGAIN!!! My guess is as a blue tint blinkered fool you will if any only pick out point 7. My guess is you will call me sad, deluded or a clown but hey ho Wow! Has Starman hacked your account?! I always thought you were reasonably sane with your posts and discussions on here. Dear me! I thought the same Skidder (although not liking me) is usually fine with his posts as normally is Red Panda. Either the village idiot (starman in case anyone was wondering) has hacked them or they have been brainwashed by him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 come on then fool quote me where im making stuff up. 1. I cherry pick the meetings i watch 2. Most elite league teams biggest attendance is against Poole 3. Poole are currently the biggest draw in the elite league for visiting fans. 4. Pooles biggest home crowds are against their nearest challengers (this season Coventry and Swindon) 5. Pooles lowest crowds are against poor teams (this season Lakeside and Wolves) 6. When Poole struggled in 2009 their crowds fell. 7. Poole are SOME of the reasons not ALL of the reason why people stop going. So could you highlight which of the 7 above statements are incorrect and made up please. Or will you simply not answer the question YET AGAIN!!! My guess is as a blue tint blinkered fool you will if any only pick out point 7. My guess is you will call me sad, deluded or a clown but hey ho Still looking for a smilley that suits you, sadly i can't find one .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Still looking for a smilley that suits you, sadly i can't find one .. srtill waiting for you to actually answer a question or debate. Then again you need a brain to do that, and in your words.....sadly i cant find one. any chance you can answer what i have made up please otherwise you are simply a troll. many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 srtill waiting for you to actually answer a question or debate. Then again you need a brain to do that, and in your words.....sadly i cant find one. any chance you can answer what i have made up please otherwise you are simply a troll. many thanks Im a troll, pot kettle black springs to mind.. You must love the sight of your own posts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Im a troll, pot kettle black springs to mind.. You must love the sight of your own posts.. nope not all. i ask you a simple question regarding a post i made. you said i made stuff up in my post. i want you to respond with what i made up. As i say fail to answer me proves you are trolling simple really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Im a troll, pot kettle black springs to mind.. You must love the sight of your own posts.. I guess he is just too dim to realise the irony of the at last sentence. Edited November 16, 2015 by E I Addio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 I guess he is just too dim to realise the irony of the at last sentence. oh he is lol he accused me of writing a made up post of lies. im simply asking him to point out which part of my post is made up. he is either to thick to understand or realises he has made a fool of himself. he cannot answer me only with low level abuse and makes no attempt to answer my question. i dont think im being unreasonable , if im accused of making stuff up or lying then i want to know why he thinks that. alas i dont think he will ever answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) oh he is lol he accused me of writing a made up post of lies. im simply asking him to point out which part of my post is made up. he is either to thick to understand or realises he has made a fool of himself. he cannot answer me only with low level abuse and makes no attempt to answer my question. i dont think im being unreasonable , if im accused of making stuff up or lying then i want to know why he thinks that. alas i dont think he will ever answer Your always making stuff up. Your hate for everything poole shows no bounds, you seem to love the sight of your own posts. Now why don't you just go away and play with the traffic on the A14. Edited November 16, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Actually Starman, I agree with Gavan on this one!! The reason he gives as to why crowd levels are how they are, makes a lot of sense to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Wow! Has Starman hacked your account?! I always thought you were reasonably sane with your posts and discussions on here. Dear me! My perfectly sane post was in direct response to GRWs attempt at blaming Matt Ford/Poole for most of Speedway's ills - in particular falling attendances. Please tell me what is incorrect in my post. If clubs get their best attendances when Poole visit - because they are 'the team to beat' - then these other EL club promoters need to get their respective fingers out of their backsides and start building stronger teams!!! As for the forum Poole troll Gavan talking about his visits to Ipswich??! - Totally irrelevant to this argument on the Poole/Coventry thread in the EL section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) My perfectly sane post was in direct response to GRWs attempt at blaming Matt Ford/Poole for most of Speedway's ills - in particular falling attendances. Please tell me what is incorrect in my post. If clubs get their best attendances when Poole visit - because they are 'the team to beat' - then these other EL club promoters need to get their respective fingers out of their backsides and start building stronger teams!!! As for the forum Poole troll Gavan talking about his visits to Ipswich??! - Totally irrelevant to this argument on the Poole/Coventry thread in the EL section. But mate, he's never on any other thread other than the poole threads, he's always sitting on the threads, He's suposed to support Ipswich, but ive never seen him on their thread, He has a real problem with Poole and anything conected with the club, but for a supposed Ippo fan its a very very unhealthy obsession, for somebody who's probably never been to Poole, and certainly never met Matt. Edited November 16, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 But mate, he's never on any other thread other than the poole threads, he's always sitting on the threads, He's suposed to support Ipswich, but ive never seen him on their thread, He has a real problem with Poole and anything conected with the club, but for a supposed Ippo fan its a very very unhealthy obsession, for somebody who's probably never been to Poole, and certainly never met Matt. Gavan has been on many other threads so yet another lie Starman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Is this still going on???????????? I find Gavan's posts informative a lot of the time and he does have a valid point about crowds the only one I disagree with was the crowds dropping as much in 2009 as he suggests.............. A lot of clubs could learn from Matt Ford in how to run and get the best out of a team and get the crowds in...............as I still maintain though regarding alleged cheating though the rules are there for all clubs to use...........its just that some use them better than others.............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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