The Doctor... Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) In the real world of medicine (which I know extremely well from an educated point of view) nothing is ever really that clear cut. In reference to the length of stay for Dak's dad in hospital there must be an assumption that there is a life changing element to his injury. That is only by piecing together some of the information that we know or assume to be true. We don't know any true relevance of Dak's dad's injury so that's a sweeping statement to make. ANY length of stay in hospital is in itself life changing. Come on, please, educated point of view or not, "ANY length of stay in hospital is life changing" is guff, sorry it really is. I respect you on the bsf when it comes to speedway i really do, but please dont try and out do me medical wise - length of stay IS NOT LIFE CHANGING What do you honestly think is wrong with him ? (Based on your knowledge, of the the real world of medicine, which you know extremely well, from an educated point of view - non speedway, as a medical scholar ) Edited October 17, 2015 by The Doctor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Come on, please, educated point of view or not, "ANY length of stay in hospital is life changing" is guff, sorry it really is. I respect you on the bsf when it comes to speedway i really do, but please dont try and out do me medical wise - length of stay IS NOT LIFE CHANGING What do you honestly think is wrong with him ? (Based on your knowledge, of the the real world of medicine, which you know extremely well, from an educated point of view - non speedway, as a medical scholar ) You call it 'guff', I call it reality. In your opinion why is it NOT LIFE CHANGING as you have such a strong opinion I would like to hear you're reasoning. What do I honestly think is wrong with him? ? It's very hard to assume without any real facts but such a lengthy stay in hospital indicates 'life changing'. Possible nerve damage, detachment of nerve or structure, major ligament damage. All these indicate a life changing injury AND a lengthy stay in hospital. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh for heavens sake giveit a rest, just get a LIFE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh for heavens sake giveit a rest, just get a LIFE Thanks for you're informative opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 You call it 'guff', I call it reality. In your opinion why is it NOT LIFE CHANGING as you have such a strong opinion I would like to hear you're reasoning. What do I honestly think is wrong with him? ? It's very hard to assume without any real facts but such a lengthy stay in hospital indicates 'life changing'. Possible nerve damage, detachment of nerve or structure, major ligament damage. All these indicate a life changing injury AND a lengthy stay in hospital. And none of which would render a relation incapable of doing their job numerous days later.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynniecallander Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 As Rod's partner I would like to say a few things...... Firstly, as he is a very private man I will not be giving information as to the nature of his injury or his ongoing recovery. As all of you are speculating as to his stay in hospital, you obviously are not our friends & therefore should mind your own business & stop judging Dak on his riding capabilities. It's seriously time for you to move on, as it would appear the people still raising this subject have very little to do with their lives. End of story, but for those of you GENUINELY concerned, thanks for sending Rod your best wishes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 And none of which would render a relation incapable of doing their job numerous days later.. I would like to see you try and do your job properly knowing that a parent was in hospital half way around the world and you could do nothing about getting there...................put yourself in George Ward's shoes when he first heard about Darcy and not knowing the full extent of what was going on because that is exactly the position Dak was in................. I think I have said this before but when my Dad was seriously ill in hospital before he passed away I was trying to work, run a home, look after my family, be at the hospital with him (including several early hour of the morning calls to get there now as he was unlikely to survive another hour) and look after my Mum............everything especially my work suffered...........I was exhausted and no good to anyone and could barely cope with it all.......and I was only just down the road............how the hell do you think Dak felt being thousands of miles away................ Of course you only want to see the bad side in anything that Poole do..............nothing new there then........... RP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I would like to see you try and do your job properly knowing that a parent was in hospital half way around the world and you could do nothing about getting there................... ?? what do you mean ....Could North not catch a flight home then ? North was the one who choose to stay in the uk as he clearly felt is was not worth going home ...if my parents were still alive and one them were in bad accident I would return home rather than play golf and ride speedway . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I would like to see you try and do your job properly knowing that a parent was in hospital half way around the world and you could do nothing about getting there...................put yourself in George Ward's shoes when he first heard about Darcy and not knowing the full extent of what was going on because that is exactly the position Dak was in................. I think I have said this before but when my Dad was seriously ill in hospital before he passed away I was trying to work, run a home, look after my family, be at the hospital with him (including several early hour of the morning calls to get there now as he was unlikely to survive another hour) and look after my Mum............everything especially my work suffered...........I was exhausted and no good to anyone and could barely cope with it all.......and I was only just down the road............how the hell do you think Dak felt being thousands of miles away................ Of course you only want to see the bad side in anything that Poole do..............nothing new there then........... RP No qualms from me for North missing the meeting if he chooses to but to somehow getting a sick note and therefore a facility is what I don't like even more so the issue is not speedway related. Its now opens it up to be abused by any side including my own. Edited October 18, 2015 by woz01 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 No qualms from me for North missing the meeting if he chooses to but to somehow getting a sick note and therefore a facility is what I don't like even more so the issue is not speedway related. Its now opens it up to be abused by any side including my own. Signed off with stress of course he is entitled to a sick note.................its just people don't like it because Poole used the rules as they are supposed to be used..............if it was any other team would you be saying the same?????????? Of course it is no different to Zagar not riding in the semi's because he was injured yet was still riding meetings abroad...............go figure I think that opened the door to abuse more than what happened to Dak............ RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) hmmm. according to interviews with dak he still didnt know the injuries to his father but still rode in the final , as you say its the not knowing that caused this stress, so how was he ok to ride in the final that is of course he was telling the truth and really didnt know.. No qualms from me for North missing the meeting if he chooses to but to somehow getting a sick note and therefore a facility is what I don't like even more so the issue is not speedway related. Its now opens it up to be abused by any side including my own. i think the rules need changing regarding injuries that are not speedway related teams will make up any excuse , because the scb cannot do a damn thing about it if the rider has a doctors note (which anyone can get if you pay a small fee) Edited October 18, 2015 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Well done Poole - EL champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foreverblue Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 We would have won with or without Dakota North, if North had ridden and got zero we still would have won so if some are trying to tarnish our victory by saying we cheated our way to the final that is rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) We would have won with or without Dakota North, if North had ridden and got zero we still would have won so if some are trying to tarnish our victory by saying we cheated our way to the final that is rubbish. That is hardly the point ...if the intent was there the outcome means little ....it a bit like paying off a ref off in football but then winning 5 nil without his help . Also you can't take riders points literally on the outcome of what the score might be ...as a rider winning a heat rather than coming last has a bigger swing than 3 points as all the riders would move up a place . Edited October 18, 2015 by orion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 We would have won with or without Dakota North, if North had ridden and got zero we still would have won so if some are trying to tarnish our victory by saying we cheated our way to the final that is rubbish. I tell you what, I'll drive to work at 150mph tomorrow, when the police pull me over I'll claim the "Poole defence" or "I didn't crash into anything so it's ok. I didn't cheat" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 We would have won with or without Dakota North, if North had ridden and got zero we still would have won so if some are trying to tarnish our victory by saying we cheated our way to the final that is rubbish. poole used the rules to there advantage , and played politics with speedway again ...... pretty sure if the facility only allowed a pl reserve dak would of rode the rules should be changed , for non speedway related injuries and for a speedway related injury from riding...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I tell you what, I'll drive to work at 150mph tomorrow, when the police pull me over I'll claim the "Poole defence" or "I didn't crash into anything so it's ok. I didn't cheat" I think there is a good chance of you crashing at that speed!! And that would be breaking the law, Poole didn't break the rules. Edited October 18, 2015 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 your right poole didnt 'break' the rules of course they didnt , what they did was take the p*ss out of them for there own end..... the question remains whether poole 'used' daks fathers accident to there advantage , and used a guest when dak could probably of ridden the rules need changing , but guess who decides the rules - the promoters.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Belle Vue didn't "break" any rules a few years back but were rightly penalised. It's not just about the rule book as you expect some moral responsibility from competitors, something regrettably lacking at Poole. Newman did break the rules but that doesn't seem to matter to you lot either. What an obnoxious bunch you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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