Posf2 Poole V Coventry

[stevebrum]

Have you not been reading the thread ?

I have and my point remains.

The news or privacy may be no different to the ward family. Who has a right to demand ANY answers?

If Dak/Poole/north family wanted news broadcast they probably would have.

But keep digging for news eh? Some people are just so desperate IMHO.

[E I Addio]

I have and my point remains.

The news or privacy may be no different to the ward family. Who has a right to demand ANY answers?

If Dak/Poole/north family wanted news broadcast they probably would have.

But keep digging for news eh? Some people are just so desperate IMHO.

Nobody has demanded any answer. That is your incorrect choice of words.. As has already been said throughout the thread if nothing at all had been said fair enough, but that is not quite the case. A statement has been put out , not by the North family but apparently by a promoter with a long history of shady dealings, namely Matt. Ford telling the world and his wife that the operation lasted 12 hours, but giving no details of what the injury was.

 

A poster who is not normally given to making wild or extravagant claims says he has information from a well placed source that it was a hand injury.. A serious injury no doubt but whether it would be enough to cause a rider to miss a key meeting if he was not out of form is really what the debate is about.

 

Nobody is demanding anything, but the absence of firm information, especially after being told that it was a 12 hour operation will invariably give rise to debate on a debating forum particularly when set against Fords past record as SCB pointed out in his post at the top of the page.

Edited September 27, 2015 by E I Addio

[stevebrum]

Nobody has demanded any answer. That is your incorrect choice of words.. As has already been said throughout the thread if nothing at all had been said fair enough, but that is not quite the case. A statement has been put out , not by the North family but apparently by a promoter with a long history of shady dealings, namely Matt. Ford telling the world and his wife that the operation lasted 12 hours, but giving no details of what the injury was.

A poster who is not normally given to making wild or extravagant claims says he has information from a well placed source that it was a hand injury.. A serious injury no doubt but whether it would be enough to cause a rider to miss a key meeting if he was not out of form is really what the debate is about.

Nobody is demanding anything, but the absence of firm information, especially after being told that it was a 12 hour operation will invariably give rise to debate on a debating forum particularly when set against Fords past record as SCB pointed out in his post at the top of the page.

Just choice of words. I have read some silly nonsense claiming they are digging for information which is bordering on stalking.

Whilst I get the issue of North missing might look dodgy (more that he chose to play golf the next day)how do we judge what is deemed stress related ?

Grajczonek missed meeting(s) due to being affected by an injury to another rider, isn't the north situation on a parallel? How can we allow one rider to miss meetings due to bring stressed and not another?

I have been MF's biggest critic over the years but I find a hint of irony that some are blasting Poole when others have tried to bend the rules far worse than them this year.

Poole have a history of dodgy rule bending over the recent years but I still have some sympathy with North which seems to be ignored whilst praising Josh G when he missed meetings.

Smacks of double standards irregardless what anyone thinks of Poole.

[Tsunami]

Nobody has demanded any answer. That is your incorrect choice of words.. As has already been said throughout the thread if nothing at all had been said fair enough, but that is not quite the case. A statement has been put out , not by the North family but apparently by a promoter with a long history of shady dealings, namely Matt. Ford telling the world and his wife that the operation lasted 12 hours, but giving no details of what the injury was.

 

A poster who is not normally given to making wild or extravagant claims says he has information from a well placed source that it was a hand injury.. A serious injury no doubt but whether it would be enough to cause a rider to miss a key meeting if he was not out of form is really what the debate is about.

 

Nobody is demanding anything, but the absence of firm information, especially after being told that it was a 12 hour operation will invariably give rise to debate on a debating forum particularly when set against Fords past record as SCB pointed out in his post at the top of the page.

You must be joking after all the drivel that has been posted on here in the last few days. It's the 'lack of' that most people have a problem with this case. Not that they have a right to know it anyway.

[BWitcher]

Just choice of words. I have read some silly nonsense claiming they are digging for information which is bordering on stalking.

Whilst I get the issue of North missing might look dodgy (more that he chose to play golf the next day)how do we judge what is deemed stress related ?

Grajczonek missed meeting(s) due to being affected by an injury to another rider, isn't the north situation on a parallel? How can we allow one rider to miss meetings due to bring stressed and not another?

I have been MF's biggest critic over the years but I find a hint of irony that some are blasting Poole when others have tried to bend the rules far worse than them this year.

Poole have a history of dodgy rule bending over the recent years but I still have some sympathy with North which seems to be ignored whilst praising Josh G when he missed meetings.

Smacks of double standards irregardless what anyone thinks of Poole.

 

The ONLY reason you are taking this stance is because Coventry were involved.

 

For once, grow up, put aside your petty 5 year old "I don't like Coventry BS" and look at something like an adult.

 

You're always one of the first to call teams out for cheating, be it Poole, Swindon etc.. EXCEPT when it involves Coventry.. then all of a sudden it's all fair.

 

There is absolutely no reason why it couldn't have been said what the injury was.. all this privacy crap, for what? Just a smokescreen. They all know full well if they announced Dakota North's dad has injured his hand so he can't ride, everyone would call them out as absolute BS.

 

As for trying to compare the situation with that of Josh G.. did it strengthen Belle Vue Josh G missing? Poole knew it would strengthen them.. they could have won the semi final fairly, but as always Ford leaves no stone unturned in his desperation to win.. regardless of the damage done to the sport.

 

There is no doubt the incident will have caused more fans to give the sport up altogether, but that's no problem, there's plenty more to replace them!

[orion]

Just choice of words. I have read some silly nonsense claiming they are digging for information which is bordering on stalking.

Whilst I get the issue of North missing might look dodgy (more that he chose to play golf the next day)how do we judge what is deemed stress related ?

Grajczonek missed meeting(s) due to being affected by an injury to another rider, isn't the north situation on a parallel? How can we allow one rider to miss meetings due to bring stressed and not another?

I have been MF's biggest critic over the years but I find a hint of irony that some are blasting Poole when others have tried to bend the rules far worse than them this year.

Poole have a history of dodgy rule bending over the recent years but I still have some sympathy with North which seems to be ignored whilst praising Josh G when he missed meetings.

Smacks of double standards irregardless what anyone thinks of Poole.

Don't think it's the same at all ...Grajczonek was involed in a crash that left a rider badly hurt in a coma we all know that there is no doubt about it plus it never made Belle Vue any stronger so there would have been any motive for him to miss the meeting .. on the other hand we have very little info on why North was in the so call state he was in bar ne never felt the need to go home he played golf the next day and Poole brought in a better rider on present form to replace him and then Ford bringing out a press statement for reason wanting to talk about the time of the op rather that was it was ...Josh g and North are nothing like each other

Edited September 28, 2015 by orion

[SCB]

Or course Dak dad hurting his hand is nothing like a rider being upset at putting someone in a coma! Had Rod North been in a coma I'm sure everyone would have had a great deal of sympathy for him.

[stevebrum]

The ONLY reason you are taking this stance is because Coventry were involved.

 

For once, grow up, put aside your petty 5 year old "I don't like Coventry BS" and look at something like an adult.

 

You're always one of the first to call teams out for cheating, be it Poole, Swindon etc.. EXCEPT when it involves Coventry.. then all of a sudden it's all fair.

 

There is absolutely no reason why it couldn't have been said what the injury was.. all this privacy crap, for what? Just a smokescreen. They all know full well if they announced Dakota North's dad has injured his hand so he can't ride, everyone would call them out as absolute BS.

 

As for trying to compare the situation with that of Josh G.. did it strengthen Belle Vue Josh G missing? Poole knew it would strengthen them.. they could have won the semi final fairly, but as always Ford leaves no stone unturned in his desperation to win.. regardless of the damage done to the sport.

 

There is no doubt the incident will have caused more fans to give the sport up altogether, but that's no problem, there's plenty more to replace them!

 

What on earth are you on about (I appreciate that's a common complaint hurled at you often).

what has anything my comments made to do with Coventry?

I am purely pointing out that stress related time out of the sport is subjective. The common complaint we have is that if you are fit for a GP then you are fit to ride. So what's different?

so a family issue is less stressful than a fellow rider being injured?

As per usual BWitcher trying to make something out of a post that isn't there.

grow up.

 

 

Don't think it's the same at all ...Grajczonek was involed in a crash that left a rider badly hurt in a coma we all know that there is doubt about it

 

So you admit there was doubt about it, the same way there is doubt in North being not fit mentally to ride. Hence , what's the difference.

 

Or course Dak dad hurting his hand is nothing like a rider being upset at putting someone in a coma! Had Rod North been in a coma I'm sure everyone would have had a great deal of sympathy for him.

How do we know he wasn't? ?

Honestly some people really put 2 and 2 together and make 5.

[Gemini]

Doesn't it usually involve a head injury to be in a coma? I had 3 operations on my hand but my brain was perfectly okay.......although that might be debatable.

Edited September 27, 2015 by Gemini

[SCB]

How do we know he wasn't? ?

Honestly some people really put 2 and 2 together and make 5.

Because it was a hand injury, as thats all we know so far from someone whos pretty reliable. And nobody form Poole nor Dak himself have denied it.

[heathen chemistry]

if it is a hand injury then poole have just took the p**s out of speedway once more

 

you can bet if dak had top scored friday he would of been riding monday.....

 

imo he didnt look like someone suffering friday he just looked off form.....if he was having trouble rididng he would of given up after 3 laps in some of his races.....

[The Doctor...]

Because it was a hand injury, as thats all we know so far from someone whos pretty reliable. And nobody form Poole nor Dak himself have denied it.

 

I've had two reasonably positive posts about me now.. if this is all wrong i'll be furious!!

 

I actually still want this to be duff info, but the longer the silence is, it makes me think its more and more likely to be something close to the truth.

[Trees]

A hand injury, hence the long op, get that.

[Woz01]

Just choice of words. I have read some silly nonsense claiming they are digging for information which is bordering on stalking.

Whilst I get the issue of North missing might look dodgy (more that he chose to play golf the next day)how do we judge what is deemed stress related ?

Grajczonek missed meeting(s) due to being affected by an injury to another rider, isn't the north situation on a parallel? How can we allow one rider to miss meetings due to bring stressed and not another?

I have been MF's biggest critic over the years but I find a hint of irony that some are blasting Poole when others have tried to bend the rules far worse than them this year.

Poole have a history of dodgy rule bending over the recent years but I still have some sympathy with North which seems to be ignored whilst praising Josh G when he missed meetings.

Smacks of double standards irregardless what anyone thinks of Poole.

Josh G was actually involved in the Kerr accident its not the same at all.

[Pirate Baz]

I can't believe this thread is still going, so I went into it to see why.

My better half tells me to keep away from all the children bickering, but guys and girls this has gone on too long.

 

Have any of you read the Peter Oakes article on the 'Grand Final' in SS last week?

If not page 10, right hand column, start say, at the third paragraph.

 

I would point out that as a neutral, Peter Oakes has had more allegiance with Coventry than Poole over the years.

[LisaColette]

Because it was a hand injury, as thats all we know so far from someone whos pretty reliable. And nobody form Poole nor Dak himself have denied it.

They may not have seen it!! Ford is not a great fan of all the forum/social media stuff so can't see him giving in to people who are on it.

 

Unless it's been made official I'm not believing this hand story/rumour.

[orion]

 

 

 

 

 

How do we know he wasn't? ?

Honestly some people really put 2 and 2 together and make 5.

Well North must be a really nasty so and so if he was playing golf if his dad was in a coma .

 

I can't believe this thread is still going, so I went into it to see why.

My better half tells me to keep away from all the children bickering, but guys and girls this has gone on too long.

 

Have any of you read the Peter Oakes article on the 'Grand Final' in SS last week?

If not page 10, right hand column, start say, at the third paragraph.

 

I would point out that as a neutral, Peter Oakes has had more allegiance with Coventry than Poole over the years.

Speedway star article ? that's a magazine that will find the truth out and point the finger

Edited September 28, 2015 by orion

[E I Addio]

Just choice of words. I have read some silly nonsense claiming they are digging for information which is bordering on stalking.

Whilst I get the issue of North missing might look dodgy (more that he chose to play golf the next day)how do we judge what is deemed stress related ?

Grajczonek missed meeting(s) due to being affected by an injury to another rider, isn't the north situation on a parallel? How can we allow one rider to miss meetings due to bring stressed and not another?

I have been MF's biggest critic over the years but I find a hint of irony that some are blasting Poole when others have tried to bend the rules far worse than them this year.

Poole have a history of dodgy rule bending over the recent years but I still have some sympathy with North which seems to be ignored whilst praising Josh G when he missed meetings.

Smacks of double standards irregardless what anyone thinks of Poole.

Now you are changing your point.

 

My reply was purely and simply to your claim that people were DEMANDING information, which they weren't.it all kicked off becsuse a Poole supporter threw down the challenge to as Dak direct on Twitter or Facebook and somebody called his bluff..

 

Now you are shifting your ground and saying how can any of us judge what is stress related,mind bringing Josh into it, which is a totally different set of circumstances as others have already pointed out.

 

The problem is that like everyone that is on dodgy ground you start exaggerating. First you say people were demanding information, now you are trying to tell us that people were praising Josh when he missed a meeting which is quite untrue. From what has been posted on this thread, it's clear that fans understand and have sympathy with Josh but that is not the same as showering him with praise.

Or course Dak dad hurting his hand is nothing like a rider being upset at putting someone in a coma! Had Rod North been in a coma I'm sure everyone would have had a great deal of sympathy for him.

Not only in a coma but the riders life was literally saved on track by a medic and Josh had the trauma of waiting for perhaps 20 minutes while his fellow riders life literally y hung in the balance while the medics were attending. That is enough to cause anyone to need a few days off.

[chris4gillian]

Its gone very very quiet from the Poole fans since (allegedly) it appears North snr has sustained only a hand injury (all be it quite nasty)

 

My mum fell over in her garden back in April and suffered a punctured lung and a cracked rib. I left work straightaway to go see her but dont remember having to have a week off work to deal with it.

 

That's because some of us have a very full family life and posting on this forum is not a priority.

Edited September 28, 2015 by chris4gillian

[SteveLyric2]

At least one or two have now started to apologise for their previous anti-Poole/Dak posts - on the Aces v Pirates thread - now that Jason Crump has given more detail!!