kingbee Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 So in essence you're trying to prove that Dak North, Matt Ford and Poole Speedway are lying about the injury to Dak's father..?!? Effing despicable!!!Why if it's true nobody knows one way or the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Some strange people if that's what floats their boat, as for a natural reaction?...I can't be natural then! Cheering at someone's misfortune is pretty low in any walk of life. No it isn't. In every sport, someone has fortune, someone does not. If you cheer a goal, you are cheering at someones misfortune. If you cheer a pass in speedway, you are cheering at someones misfortune. Most people like to invest emotionally in sport, savour the highs, despair at the lows.. unfortunately speedway is populated by too many of the sit and do nothing types.. and they are one of THE biggest reasons the sport doesn't attract new younger fans. Like I said some sad people in the world. Out of interest do you smile a people who have broken down at the side of the road?! There are some sad people in the world, that is correct. You appear to be a case in point. Why would I smile at someone broken down at the side of the road? You really don't understand do you? NOBODY is cheering because a rider has had a mechanical failure.. indeed if he was in last place, there would be no cheer in almost every case. They are cheering because their team has gained an advantage.. that's the idea of sport you see, to try to win. It's exactly the same situation when a rider falls.. apart from the odd idiot which you get at every track, nobody is cheering a rider falling, they are cheering because their team gained an advantage, that is the cause of the cheer. It doesn't for one moment mean they want the rider to be in anyway injured.. the sick people are the ones who try to find a correlation between the two. I dread to think how some of these folk would have got on at Wolves/Cradley meetings in the past.. EVERY incident was greeted with massive cheers from whichever side. I have a match on video where Sam Ermolenko pushes Greg Hancock way out wide, Hancock goes down and the whole place goes crazy.. later in the meet Sam goes down and the Cradley fans go wild. These were must see meetings, the atmosphere was unbelievable, the riders responded and put on an even better show.. you'd prefer a silent stadium with a morgue like atmosphere, which to be fair you get at many speedway meetings now.. hence the sport dying. Edited September 22, 2015 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 So not only do you still behave like a child but you don't pay attention either? Using an alias is not a crime. I used the same name for the gofundme account as I did when I used to own and design Darcy's official team website and logo he rode with. Maybe you can show a little more maturity now and get back to the topic at hand. So your claim to have proven that Rod North isn't injured at all was nonsense then? Do you not think if a person had a serious works accident that there would be some sort of record of it either local paper news etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 If said rider from the opposing team was in the lead and packed up damn right I would. Cheering at an engine failure is fine, cheering when a rider goes down is not. A lot of Poole fans should feel very ashamed today, but I am quite sure they will make excuses for their actions, after all that is what Poole seem to do. I to thought the Poole fans were terrific last night. Just wish every track could be like that every week. You are 100% bang on about cheering, it's all about the advantage not the rider going down. Most of the comments are just bitterness about their clubs own failings I am not a fan of Coventry, and I don't have a club anymore, so no bitterness here. I am sure most fans are cheering about the advantage, but it does not make it right. Those fans are too stupid to understand that whilst they are cheering the rider may be picking up some form of injury or some expensive repair bill from their simple looking fall. The cheering of falling riders seems far louder at Poole than anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cracking condescending match report in the echo. Appears to have been written by an 8 year old schoolboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cracking condescending match report in the echo. Appears to have been written by an 8 year old schoolboy. done by ford and middlo then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cheering at an engine failure is fine, cheering when a rider goes down is not. A lot of Poole fans should feel very ashamed today, but I am quite sure they will make excuses for their actions, after all that is what Poole seem to do. I am not a fan of Coventry, and I don't have a club anymore, so no bitterness here. I am sure most fans are cheering about the advantage, but it does not make it right. Those fans are too stupid to understand that whilst they are cheering the rider may be picking up some form of injury or some expensive repair bill from their simple looking fall. The cheering of falling riders seems far louder at Poole than anywhere else. That's why the cheering will often be stifled by a mass intake of breath when people realise the seriousness of an incident. the applause as the rider finally makes his way back to the pits, or even takes an ambulance ride, is usually far more enthusiastic than the initial cheer. As for the oft quoted "nobody wants to see a rider injured", sadly, that isn't true either. As for Poole being louder, having a bigger crowd will do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cheering at an engine failure is fine, cheering when a rider goes down is not. A lot of Poole fans should feel very ashamed today, but I am quite sure they will make excuses for their actions, after all that is what Poole seem to do. It is perfectly fine as you are not cheering the rider falling per se, you are cheering the advantage gained by your team.. something a few seem to fail to grasp. Ask yourself, why have RIDERS and TEAM MANAGERS been seen to cheer and jump in the air themselves when such things have happened? You have to have a very sick mind if you want to link the two... the problem is yours, not those who cheered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Cheering at an engine failure is fine, cheering when a rider goes down is not. A lot of Poole fans should feel very ashamed today, but I am quite sure they will make excuses for their actions, after all that is what Poole seem to do. I am not a fan of Coventry, and I don't have a club anymore, so no bitterness here. I am sure most fans are cheering about the advantage, but it does not make it right. Those fans are too stupid to understand that whilst they are cheering the rider may be picking up some form of injury or some expensive repair bill from their simple looking fall. The cheering of falling riders seems far louder at Poole than anywhere else. What annoys me is the hypocrisy of fans, like it never happens at their club, someone earlier in the thread even brought Darcy ward in to the argument, like we had forgotten his terrible plight and i can tell you that more than once Darcy was cheered at Coventry when he fell off riding for Poole, not to mention the booing as Lee Richardson was put in to an ambulance when riding for Swindon at Coventry in the play offs. Edited September 22, 2015 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 anybody got any updates on rod north's condition? carnt find anything on any news websites internet forums or google normally when something like this happens someone friend or family normally posts on speedway friends or a similar group but theres been nothing it seems nobody knew anything about rod north's accident until dakota told people after fridays match.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 anybody got any updates on rod north's condition? carnt find anything on any news websites internet forums or google normally when something like this happens someone friend or family normally posts on speedway friends or a similar group but theres been nothing it seems nobody knew anything about rod north's accident until dakota told people after fridays match.. It would seem dak and his family didn't feel the need to broadcast personal details of his injuries, how rude of them eh? Maybe you want a copy of his Dr's records? Or a video of his surgery? Would you believe it then? The ignorance was amusing once but it's getting more and more offensive sadly. It's amazing the lengths hatred will drive some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 It would seem dak and his family didn't feel the need to broadcast personal details of his injuries, how rude of them eh? Maybe you want a copy of his Dr's records? Or a video of his surgery? Would you believe it then? The ignorance was amusing once but it's getting more and more offensive sadly. It's amazing the lengths hatred will drive some people Unfortunately, when a club has lied previously (more than once) regarding absence of riders, everything is then treated with suspicion, which is unfortunate for North in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I will cheer an engine failure quite happily. After seeing the death of Paul Muchene live, i will never cheer any rider who comes off even the ones that are simply just a slide into the fence. Unfortunately, when a club has lied previously (more than once) regarding absence of riders, everything is then treated with suspicion, which is unfortunate for North in this situation. i fully believe Norths dad isnt very well i fully believe that it may affect North Do i believe it is enough for him to miss last nights match? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 It would seem dak and his family didn't feel the need to broadcast personal details of his injuries, how rude of them eh? Maybe you want a copy of his Dr's records? Yes a copy of his Doctors records would be good, I'm sure you could provide them as you seem to know everything, we can then put this to bed once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 So after a great but very late night at Wimborne Road yesterday (and an even later morning!) I have finally managed to catch up on this thread. Well done to all the Bees fans that made the trip and a particular well done to Bomber and Hans for coming across at the end and shaking all the Pirates' hands!! I'm not going to go over all the vitriolic posts that have gone before, other than to say that I think the 'seething and disillusionment' expressed by the Bees Mangement before the meeting was simply down to the frustration of finding out that Matt Ford had already booked Eddie Kennett as a guest when they tried to make contact themselves! Some of the attacks on Dak's father's situation are simply unbelieveable and we shall have to await further post-operative information before any decision on whether a further medical certificate might be needed?! ( Incidentally, having a brother in the medical field, it is probable that the medical certificate for Dak contained 'depression' or 'anxiety' as the reason, and hence why Poole gave him compassionate leave. I believe Josh G's certificate contained a similar diagnosis after Kerr's crash.) Personally I would have given the Rider of the Night Award to either Watty or Ginger, but Darcy's message that it should go to Eddie Kennett was a classic response to Horton's earlier bs!! Well done to Lemo and the Aces (commiserations to Rosco and the Robins) - looking forward to 2 tough meetings next week ps. If mdmc2 is looking for a medical certificate to cover her 'repetitive strain injury', it can be arranged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I will cheer an engine failure quite happily. After seeing the death of Paul Muchene live, i will never cheer any rider who comes off even the ones that are simply just a slide into the fence. i fully believe Norths dad isnt very well i fully believe that it may affect North Do i believe it is enough for him to miss last nights match? No I agree with that, North is fit, he isn't injured, he hasn't flown back home to be with his dad, Josh G was given leave because he was directly involved in Lewis Kerr's accident. So after a great but very late night at Wimborne Road yesterday (and an even later morning!) I have finally managed to catch up on this thread. Well done to all the Bees fans that made the trip and a particular well done to Bomber and Hans for coming across at the end and shaking all the Pirates' hands!! I'm not going to go over all the vitriolic posts that have gone before, other than to say that I think the 'seething and disillusionment' expressed by the Bees Mangement before the meeting was simply down to the frustration of finding out that Matt Ford had already booked Eddie Kennett as a guest when they tried to make contact themselves! Some of the attacks on Dak's father's situation are simply unbelieveable and we shall have to await further post-operative information before any decision on whether a further medical certificate might be needed?! ( Incidentally, having a brother in the medical field, it is probable that the medical certificate for Dak contained 'depression' or 'anxiety' as the reason, and hence why Poole gave him compassionate leave. I believe Josh G's certificate contained a similar diagnosis after Kerr's crash.) Personally I would have given the Rider of the Night Award to either Watty or Ginger, but Darcy's message that it should go to Eddie Kennett was a classic response to Horton's earlier bs!! Well done to Lemo and the Aces (commiserations to Rosco and the Robins) - looking forward to 2 tough meetings next week ps. If mdmc2 is looking for a medical certificate to cover her 'repetitive strain injury', it can be arranged. We got a tough one next week the Aces are flying and we need Dak back because he is very good at B Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I found myself as a complete neutral last night as despite in the past having had some good feeling about both teams I now find Poole put me off with their creative interpretation of the rules and some hostility regarding present management of the Bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes a copy of his Doctors records would be good, I'm sure you could provide them as you seem to know everything, we can then put this to bed once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Some of the attacks on Dak's father's situation are simply unbelieveable and we shall have to await further post-operative information before any decision on whether a further medical certificate might be needed?! ( Incidentally, having a brother in the medical field, it is probable that the medical certificate for Dak contained 'depression' or 'anxiety' as the reason, and hence why Poole gave him compassionate leave. I believe Josh G's certificate contained a similar diagnosis after Kerr's crash.) So which came first the medical certificate of the compassionate leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob VDS Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes a copy of his Doctors records would be good, I'm sure you could provide them as you seem to know everything, we can then put this to bed once and for all. I never said I did know. And nor do I want to know, it's none of my business. And it's none of yours either 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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