BluPanther Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Before first set of averages are released. What's so frustrating is that everyone can see we are one change away from being a very good side. Nothing against Simon but I can't see any improvement in his average - and now he is missing 9 matches. Hit the nail on the head there. I presumed the team was built with no double uppers, and with around 2pts to spare it is now logical and sensible to replace Simon in the circumstances imo... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I would be extremely surprised if the team you have now is the one that starts the season. Maybe it's all in hand but hasn't been announced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 As Lambert had signed for the Panthers first it's a bit harsh that King's Lynn come along and now have first call. But those the rules! Have to agree with you it doesn't seem fair , and if Kings Lynn wanted him that badly they should have signed him first even if he is owned by them . hate the doubling up rule ,it needs all the premier league promoters to stand together against it ,should ride in one league only not both 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I don't think even the Elite league pay enough money to avoid riders doubling up/down, that's why so many do it, they want to earn a decent living! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Plus both leagues would struggle to find enough riders if they were forced to choose EL or PL. Its unfortunate for P'boro but at the end of the day Simon has always been a Lynn asset and it may be a blessing in disguise if Panthers release him to build up to the points limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Have to agree with you it doesn't seem fair , and if Kings Lynn wanted him that badly they should have signed him first even if he is owned by them . hate the doubling up rule ,it needs all the premier league promoters to stand together against it ,should ride in one league only not both Should be that whoever signs the rider first has first call on said rider. Same thing happened with Danny King and Ipswich in 2015, signed for Witches in October then had to play 2nd fiddle to Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So rider of the year and frequent match winner Simon should be kicked on to the PL scrapheap despite having a PL contract for 2016? Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So rider of the year and frequent match winner Simon should be kicked on to the PL scrapheap despite having a PL contract for 2016? Nice. If he then goes and signs a "contract" in another league that now means he'll miss a minimum of 9 meetings for the club he signed his first contract with, then yes I would. Tough! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolPanther Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So rider of the year and frequent match winner Simon should be kicked on to the PL scrapheap despite having a PL contract for 2016? Nice. No it isn't nice, but Simon must have known it would hurt Panthers when he decided to sign for Kings Lynn,I am a big fan of Simon and all he did for us last year,I just don't see how it can work,unless something is afoot we are not aware of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So Lambert signed a contract which means he will miss 9 Panthers meetings, he's basically shoved the managements faith in him back down their throats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 So rider of the year and frequent match winner Simon should be kicked on to the PL scrapheap despite having a PL contract for 2016? Nice. You have to be ruthless if you want to win things, and as others have said he knew signing for Lynn would mean missing nine P'boro meetings. Its a pity that you don't jump up and down so quickly when your own club does things many don't agree with instead of toeing the party line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Lambert out and replace him with a rider taking them up to the limit. They would be dark horses for title then imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Lambert has a contract with Peterborough. Maybe he didn't get any other EL offer? Feel free to argue with me on the Edinburgh thread if you want to discuss Edinburgh's possible attempt to sign a rider when he gets a UK passport as required by the new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Lambert has a contract with Peterborough. Maybe he didn't get any other EL offer? Feel free to argue with me on the Edinburgh thread if you want to discuss Edinburgh's possible attempt to sign a rider when he gets a UK passport as required by the new rules. ( ED-IN-BURROW'S attempt to pull a rabbit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Club's website shows 2/12/15 as the date Simon was announced in the 2016 team - within a few days the Lewis Kerr situation occurred following Lynn's change of race day announcement so it is my guess that Lambert was signed with the thinking he would be unlikely to be in an EL team for 2016 as most had their 6/7 positions filled. However I will be very surprised if he is replaced before the first set of averages are out at the earliest. Although now not an ideal situation I cannot imagine that there has not been discussion/agreement/ between the parties before Simon signed for the Stars. I think both clubs are important to him and he certainly showed last year his dedication to Panthers but as KL hold his contract he would quite naturally be keen to ride there also. It would be good to hear GED/Carl's thoughts on this as well as Simon himself but I suppose that's unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Club's website shows 2/12/15 as the date Simon was announced in the 2016 team - within a few days the Lewis Kerr situation occurred following Lynn's change of race day announcement so it is my guess that Lambert was signed with the thinking he would be unlikely to be in an EL team for 2016 as most had their 6/7 positions filled. However I will be very surprised if he is replaced before the first set of averages are out at the earliest. Although now not an ideal situation I cannot imagine that there has not been discussion/agreement/ between the parties before Simon signed for the Stars. I think both clubs are important to him and he certainly showed last year his dedication to Panthers but as KL hold his contract he would quite naturally be keen to ride there also. It would be good to hear GED/Carl's thoughts on this as well as Simon himself but I suppose that's unlikely. I must admit to miss 9 matches is enough to cause concern , some suggesting we should look for replacement already but I think we need to take into consideration a couple of facts 1 we can cover those meetings with a guest upto 5.45 for home meetings and 5.19 for away meetings or use R/R which I .am not a fan of . 2 if we should replace him there is not a lot out there to choose from better the devil you know if see what I mean. It's too easy for people to start calling for him to be released and using the 1.87 + simon's 5.19 as a reason to replace him , we could finish being worse off if we are not very careful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Lambert has a contract with Peterborough. Maybe he didn't get any other EL offer? Feel free to argue with me on the Edinburgh thread if you want to discuss Edinburgh's possible attempt to sign a rider when he gets a UK passport as required by the new rules. I am sure he didn't get another EL offer and has only got one because Lynn have cocked up. However the facts are that P'boro are nearly two points under the limit and have a rider (who is likely to drop to reserve quite quickly) now facing nine meetings of unavailability. If the promotion and supporters have aspirations of winning things they would be daft to not consider replacing Simon, not ideal as he is a popular rider but there is very little loyalty either way in speedway because of the points limit etc. I don't think it will happen, and in a way I hope it doesn't as Simon will be a better rider for my team if he has a regular PL gig. But you really can't blame people for discussing it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPJnr Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 If they do keep him, pressure is on to accumulate some points and quickly, to avoid the termination of his deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Shafted again by our "friends" down the road!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Shafted again by our "friends" down the road!!! Shafted again by our "friends" down the road!!! It's about time the new chairman of the bspa showed us some respect and a bit of fairness regarding S.Lambert after he signed a contract for Panthers. i'm not interested what the rule book says , do the gentlemanly thing and give Panthers priority on the fixtures. After all we had already signed in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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