Bash Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 What a farce this season is turning into, just forget about the rulebook with the NL number 7 supposedly protected all year and now we have a Czech there. How is this helping the Brits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Trouble is the BSPA dont think ahead to what might happen until its to late , they obviously thought no NL rider riding at #7 would progress as Tom Perry has maybe they should start thinking about the what ifs that could happen and these situations would be avoided , why didnt they say when it was announced about the inclusion of NL #7s they would always stay as a 3.00 and only ride at #7 whatever the outcome and avoid all this confusion. Peterborough have been very fortunate with Perry it could of happened with any other PL side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Could certainly say they were fortunate with Perry and with the way the rules were worded given that he averaged over 3 in the PL in 2012 and 2013 and nearly 4 in the EL in 2014!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 What a farce this season is turning into, just forget about the rulebook with the NL number 7 supposedly protected all year and now we have a Czech there. How is this helping the Brits. To be fair though Boro have still got there protected Brit he just did very well so progressed into the main body i do think that should be the case as we all want to see progress but it seems bad that Hollub will now get a protect ride or two i guess you could argue that Perry had been about that long he shouldnt have been on the protected list to use when you compare him the the others that are being used[but that another arguement] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Will Peterborough fans adopt Holub as another Sam with Zdenek in mind then again there was only one Sam Tesar . To be fair though Boro have still got there protected Brit he just did very well so progressed into the main body i do think that should be the case as we all want to see progress but it seems bad that Hollub will now get a protect ride or two i guess you could argue that Perry had been about that long he shouldnt have been on the protected list to use when you compare him the the others that are being used[but that another arguement] Oliver Greenwood has been about as long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Oliver Greenwood has been about as long Totally agree, but maybe not quite as long,and they are[or should be] at another level to the likes of Bailey,Payne,etc etc Edited June 1, 2016 by montie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 How the HELL has Holub replaces Stokes? Who I thought had replaced Tom Perry as the new 3.00 number 7? But now all of a sudden Perry was always that number 7 rider and Holub has come in for Stokes? I'm so confused Speedway is just going from one extreme to another, Wouldn't let Cook ride initially because it didn't have British speedway as the best interest but allows a Czech rider to replace a young Brit against the 3.00 rule no problem, and don't get my wrong, I love Holub, but wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 We still have our British number 7 in Perry, he now has a 5.00odd average, so we still have our British rider. People getting on there high horses, we haven't cheated the rules, the rules were there to be cheated as they never thought a rider would get out the reserve berth, ooopsssss it has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I'm not claiming anyone has cheated, I am questioning the BSPA or whoever it was for saying that the Cook situation was initially not good for British speedway but lets this one happen no problem, a Czech for a young Brit, nothing against Peterborough, they just happen to be the team as the example, because it's them who's made the change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedway28 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Don't see the issue here? Peterborough have their GB rider, he's just done well so is promoted into the main team. Speedway is still a result's business, Peterborough have every right to make a move they feel will strengthen their side. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) We still have our British number 7 in Perry, he now has a 5.00odd average, so we still have our British rider. People getting on there high horses, we haven't cheated the rules, the rules were there to be cheated as they never thought a rider would get out the reserve berth, ooopsssss it has Given Perry's past form, in particular in the 2014 EL, I think they were every chance he would clean up and gain the average that he has. But fair play for him doing so. I guess we'll see what happens now. I still think Perry should go back to No 7. He's the only protected rider in that line-up and therefore he has to be at No 7. All the best Rob Edited June 1, 2016 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Given Perry's past form, in particular in the 2014 EL, I think they were every chance he would clean up and gain the average that he has. But fair play for him doing so. I guess we'll see what happens now. I still think Perry should go back to No 7. He's the only protected rider in that line-up and therefore he has to be at No 7. All the best Rob Agreed, Perry should stay at number 7 but regardless of that, the BSPA confuses me, Holub for Stokes but not Cook and Stokes for two foreigners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 And they certainly have a stronger team now than they started with. Next year they could be even stronger if they sign Hansen . Good luck to the panthers though for trying to win the league. Given Perry's past form, in particular in the 2014 EL, I think they were every chance he would clean up and gain the average that he has. But fair play for him doing so. I guess we'll see what happens now. I still think Perry should go back to No 7. He's the only protected rider in that line-up and therefore he has to be at No 7. All the best Rob But if perry kept cleaning up at reserve all season and ended the season on a high average, he would probably put himself out of work in the premier for a long time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) SR 18.7.1 refers to the 'initial declaration' Rob, no reason why the Cat 4 rider can't move up the 1-7 during the season. Edited June 1, 2016 by NeilWatson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Personally, I have nothing against what the Panters have done with Cookie or Holub. As far as I can judge, both changes were in the rules, so good luck and we'll done the Panters' management for making changes, strengthening up the team and going for it. I just wish all Promotions were as dynamic, proactive and forward thinking. No names mentioned of course... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Perry may every well end up back at reserve, however he currently is 4th in our averages with Grondal, Lambert and Holub behind him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 SR 18.7.1 refers to the 'initial declaration' Rob, no reason why the Cat 4 rider can't move up the 1-7 during the season.so why have a protected heat that a rider may not be in?Perhaps Perry should now have to ride at 5 to make sure he is in heat 4. wink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 so why have a protected heat that a rider may not be in? Perhaps Perry should now have to ride at 5 to make sure he is in heat 4. wink Not in the best interest of British speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) so why have a protected heat that a rider may not be in? Perhaps Perry should now have to ride at 5 to make sure he is in heat 4. wink Agreed Bruv of Bruv, but that, should not be the Panters fault at all as you will agree, it is the half baked, cock eyed, rush it in without thinking it through, BSPA who done that. Edited June 1, 2016 by macca56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Omg are some of u haters a bit dim!?...Perry is the protected Brit in the side...everyone knew that Stokes was only in for 4 matches and then there would be another change..it almost sounds like sour grapes and jealousy.. Great move by Rathbone..a very clever guy and glad he is at the helm. Edited June 1, 2016 by Lukas 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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