dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Look at how our no1s have declined - thats a massive headscratcher. If you take the different riders (bar tungate) who have been no1 from each of last few seasons (king barker worrall lanham doolan) at the start of this with two 3 pointers the team would only have been a fraction over the limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 He has a point though Baldy, the team is nowhere as bad as they're currently showing and their starting averages and their averages for this season back that up. We are badly underperforming, AGAIN. This has been a theme in every one of the season's we've been in the PL since we dropped down and it's difficult to understand why. If it happens now and again you can just say oh well it happens, but when it literally happens every year when Louis always seems to put together a good side "on paper" then you have to start wondering if there's something very wrong within the club. I had some time to kill and was looking on updates the other night from last season. The team was.. King Heeps Manzares Tungate Covatti Nielsen Morris Now how the hell did that team not even make the top 6 and the play offs? It's baffling. I know he has a point, my post was a total wee wee take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Look at how our no1s have declined - thats a massive headscratcher. If you take the different riders (bar tungate) who have been no1 from each of last few seasons (king barker worrall lanham doolan) at the start of this with two 3 pointers the team would only have been a fraction over the limit. Another good point. Barker was a points machine when we signed him, he was up there with Craig Cook as the best rider in the league. He flopped at Foxhall and has never been the same rider since. Ritchie Worrall made a huge breakthrough at Newcastle and was racking up cricket scores and was labelled the next big British thing. Signed for us at number 1, flopped and has never reached those heights since. Still a good rider, but not developed in to the top rider he looked like becoming at Newcastle before we signed him. Doolan was another who we signed as one of the league's best riders and declined straight away. King was the only one who seemed to buck that trend last season, but maybe he's just took a little longer to read the script as he too now has gone straight down the pan! Bizarre. If you're a top number 1 in this league, avoid a move to Foxhall at all costs! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Good point (again) there must be something wrong.1 rider failing O.K. bad luck but 4 riders (Nr. 1's that is) failing! Not just "coincidence" or "bad luck", there MUST be more to it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Oh and another thing, Heeps and Tungate both seem to be having better season's now they're away from Foxhall.. Another kick in the nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 To be fair the management have changed basically the whole team and its not working. However the fact that they can't put their finger on the problem is a bit worrying. At this point I don't see any benefit in making any further team changes. What does concern me is that if we do beat a half baked Edinburgh team will it just paper over the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 any idea as to why scott nicholls left? why he never turned up on practice day? the reason behind dean standing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezza Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I believe a good part of the problem is since the track changes, its now easier to ride, a great deal safer BUT it offers no real home advantage and still remains challenging to overtake. In we are honest, many of the races are decided coming out of bend 2 (with the exception of true racers or mistakes made), therefore if the boys have their gating boots there's a good chance we will secure all 3pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 But how boring would that be. Gate and go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezza Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 But how boring would that be. Gate and go. As opposed to what you have seen already this year which is.......? Last year we had Tungate, Manzares and to lesser extent Heeps in our Top 5 who last year could neither gate or pass on our track - that's why we missed the play offs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 https://youtu.be/6BBQChQoVjw The track used to be very narrow we all know that but they invested a lot of money and done something about it. Now, there is nothing wrong with the shape of the track IMO and as you can see from the clip above, it's perfectly adequate to produce good racing. The problem has been the track preparation. The prep in the above clip compared to what we now have is night and day and the entertainment is suffering because of it. I maintain there's nothing wrong with the shape of the track, but the track surface needs improving. Get that right and the entertainment will follow. I think many would put up with a crap team (people would still be disappointed obviously) as long as the meetings were entertaining. At the moment we have neither! The team is crap and the track is crap. That's a recipe for disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 What makes completely no sense to me is that louis keeps coming out with we have a team of racers, but we have had nothing but very slick tracks this year. Last season we had gaters supposedly and the track was very grippy. Gate and go is okay if it's mixed with racers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 He also admitted before the season started Baldy that the track had "deteriorated" and needed work. Has that work been carried out? It's not instantly obvious to me. I'm not saying they haven't worked on it, they must have. But it's certainly not obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just look at the advertising on air fence. It's not got dirty once this year. There must be a reason for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Nice clip HKP - so what we need is Jerran Hart back! wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Nice clip HKP - so what we need is Jerran Hart back! winkLOL. Erm, how about no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Most of the passes recently are done around the outside of bends 3 and 4. 1 and 2 bends don't seem to have the same grip. How many times have we seen the likes of Covatti, King, Barker, Heeps and even Tungate (OK I'm pushing it now?!) Try to find a way past on the outside of the first 2 corners only to actually lose ground!? Heeps move against Kerr last week wasn't a bad move.. Just skidded across the corner then nothing to hold him or Kerr up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I've just thought that it can't be anything to do with the track, cos if it was, you would have an extremely big bag of 🍩 not to do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Oh and another thing, Heeps and Tungate both seem to be having better season's now they're away from Foxhall.. Another kick in the nuts. Tungate has been sensational. I've only seen him get beat once in the 3 meetings that I've seen him. When he doesn't make the start it doesn't take him long to hit the front at home! I think from his interview the other week, when asked if he misses the Foxhall track, his straight answer of "no" spoke volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 He obviously likes the track cos he struggled to pass wind for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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