Baldyman Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Wouldn't that be 2 3 pointers at reserve then? Danyon is still the 3 pointer isn't he?. Danyon would actually be my first pic for the team. He will be the best 3 pointer in the league. Jo did a fair job, but the Joe that rides for belle vue on a big track is far better than our Joe. Edited October 1, 2016 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 But he is past his best. No one can deny that surely. And he will get worse, I want to watch someone get better. And you are right it doesn't say much for the other riders. Most of the riders in the elite league bar a small handful are nothing more than premier league riders and some still race in the national league. He isn't exactly coming up against the best riders in the world constantly like he used to be years ago. If anyone thinks he is still as good as he was, needs to think again. Obviously that's only my opinion. And when was the last time morten was a regular in the elite league? There is a reason for that. Covatti? Don't see many oh sorry any elite league team chasing after him all season. Be interesting on your views on Greg Hancock young baldyman Do you think he is on the decline or if you think he is what year did his decline start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Hancock is probably better now than he was 15 years ago. He isn't currently on the decline because of what he is best at, and that's making great starts. Out and out racers start to decline earlier in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 If Joe swapping with a 3 pointer means we can keep the top 5 then yes I'd do it....the 2 reserves Hume and Coles or Mountain would improve enough as the season progresses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'm with you there Karl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 If Joe swapping with a 3 pointer means we can keep the top 5 then yes I'd do it....the 2 reserves Hume and Coles or Mountain would improve enough as the season progressesProblem with that is if they stick to the rules (yes I know stop laughing), then King must make a decision to ride either Elite league or Premier league only next season as he can't double up/down for a third consecutive year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Stupid rule if you ask me . Can't that be classed as blocking someone's right to work . It's rules like that they need to change in this sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Problem with that is if they stick to the rules (yes I know stop laughing), then King must make a decision to ride either Elite league or Premier league only next season as he can't double up/down for a third consecutive year. Doesn't it have to be full seasons? If so king has only done 2 hasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Doesn't it have to be full seasons? If so king has only done 2 hasn't he?Yes. He can't double up/down for a third year so unless the rules change, Ipswich will need a new number 1 next year if A: King decides to remain in the Elite league (most likely), and B: Ipswich remain a Premier league club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 If the EL stays as is then more teams are needed to increase the number of meetings. Then the likes of King Kennett Masters etc will have to stay EL only thus reducing the strength of the PL opening up opportunities for NL boys starting with 6 and 7 being drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I think we will just have to wait and see on the rules and regulations front till after the agm meeting of the Muppets who always screw things up in some way or another. Getting back to this season it will be interesting to see how Somerset line up for the playoff semi. If I'm reading the latest green sheet averages correctly Tungate takes over as their new number one and given his obvious dislike of the Foxhall track a strong No2 will be needed or they will struggle to score big points in Ipswich in those positions. At home they will obviously be good because his average hasn't increased for no reason. I'm sure however the possibilities will be discussed heavily when the relevant thread is started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Who knows what the regulations will be for next season and how they will then be interpreted and changed and even, which league the Witches will be in next season. No reason to start talking about 2017 now when 2016 is still so much with us and the Ipswich 2016 Thread can carry on being the most posted on 2016 Thread on the BSF. Yes, Rohan has moved to No. 1 for October for the Rebels. Well done Romance - a quite brilliant season from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Goes to prove if you get right rider on the right track they can improve. Heeps should have a choice of tracks next season and I hope he chooses a bigger one for his benifit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 In my opinion, with the confidence Rohan built up during the Australian season and with his Polish mechanic on board full time in Britain this year, he would have have had a decent season if based at Foxhall, but there is no doubt he is better suited to the OTA as a home track. And, I still don't see that Cameron would be any better with a bigger home track given the size of his home track in Perth, WA and given the excellent form he displayed at Hoddesdon up until the behind closed doors meeting at Kings Lynn when he blew his best engine and the huge gap in home fixtures. Anyone seeing him ride at Owlerton or Berwick this season wouldn't say that he was a big track rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I've seen him at Peterborough on a few occasions and thought he looked really good there. Maybe I'm only judging him on those performances. His average has dropped again this year? So I was going by that really. So if he isn't so good on bigger tracks maybe it would be a good idea to go to one of those to improve on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Yeah, really don't know baldy, he beat KB at the Showground but then lost to other riders he should've beaten. There's no doubt the injuries have had an affect and as he said after the Sheffield meeting he has never been able to gate in his life which is 90% of winning heats particularly these days. To be fair, he looked really good at Hoddesdon during the middle of the season and if the track had stayed like it was in June and he could have mastered turn 4, he would've been on a 7pt average - I think he got up to about 6.5 having started on 5.87 and rode the whole season as a third HL, but has dropped right off to 5.07 for October - which, imo, makes him a very decent PL second string for next season. Never a confident lad but not yet 21. The desire and potential is still there and maybe a switch to the Showground is what is required, as long as he doesn't cop a bad one like he did again this season, through no fault of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Improving his starting technique could also improve his chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Improving his starting technique could also improve his chances. Think he's worked on it quite a bit, but you will have seen more of him than me. Not sure if the wrist injuries have contributed to the poor starting technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 It may not be technique but his speed of reflex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Gating is a skill you either have or haven't got. The sport has been riddled with riders down the years who were notoriously bad gaters and vice versa. Mark Loram for example was a poor gater his entire career and could never master it despite working hard at it. I think you're correct Baldyman, you either have quick reflexes or you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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