Reliant Robin Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) I doubt it will be build but you can't be 100 % sure ..what you could be a 100 % sure about was that a stadium would not be build in 16 weeks in winter even thou last week we had Swindon fans saying that it could happen because TR told them so ..of course once the tills had filled up on sunday for so called goodbye to the abbey we our now told there will no stadium intill at least june and we will most likely start the season at the abbey . Either that or TR will get bored of the knockers and decide to shut the thing down until (if it happens) the new Stadium is in place. At least he could not then be accused of a 'con'. Plenty of rumours floating about re possible Clubs joining the EL....so could still be at minimum of 8 even without Swindon. Edited October 14, 2015 by Reliant Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 All i can say as a Belle vue fan is there will be plenty of hold ups but keep the faith i did. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 How was the 2013 SWC Final? Oh, it didn't happen? BV did fail then. The funny thing is those of us who said BV wouldn't happen when they said and those of us who said Swindon wouldn't happen when they said were right about BV and now the Swindon promoter is even admitting it looks like we're right about Swindon. It makes me laugh when people have a "go" at the people who were right. The SWC final was a victim of the timeline that Swindon are now encountering, but that dosent mean you doubters were right at all, come march next year all you doom mongers come along and see the venue you all said would never materialize. No doubt all the saddos that take exception to any hint of good news happening in the sport will find something else to moan about, wether it be the track, the pies, the coffee not hot enough etc, there seems to be more anti speedway people on here nowadays putting down the sport, sitting behind their keyboards throwing out insults, no wonder so many decent posters have abandoned this site, im glead to say i will now be joining them. One other thing those that were deriding BV would have been better off worrying about their own club wouldnt they? It makes me laugh when those who said the national stadium wouldnt be built are so deluded they still think they were right. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 All i can say as a Belle vue fan is there will be plenty of hold ups but keep the faith i did. Belle Vue was an entirely different situation. Kirky Lane wasn't being redeveloped by a business notorious for making false promises to build replacement stadia. The Aces are moving to somewhere better out of choice. The new Abbey may turn out to be better (unlikely in five months) but it's certainly not a move made out of choice! It's not a matter of 'knocking', it's a matter of trying to wake up those suffering from blind faith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The SWC final was a victim of the timeline that Swindon are now encountering, but that dosent mean you doubters were right at all, come march next year all you doom mongers come along and see the venue you all said would never materialize. No doubt all the saddos that take exception to any hint of good news happening in the sport will find something else to moan about, wether it be the track, the pies, the coffee not hot enough etc, there seems to be more anti speedway people on here nowadays putting down the sport, sitting behind their keyboards throwing out insults, no wonder so many decent posters have abandoned this site, im glead to say i will now be joining them. One other thing those that were deriding BV would have been better off worrying about their own club wouldnt they? It makes me laugh when those who said the national stadium wouldnt be built are so deluded they still think they were right. Spot on post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Belle Vue was an entirely different situation. Kirky Lane wasn't being redeveloped by a business notorious for making false promises to build replacement stadia. The Aces are moving to somewhere better out of choice. The new Abbey may turn out to be better (unlikely in five months) but it's certainly not a move made out of choice! It's not a matter of 'knocking', it's a matter of trying to wake up those suffering from blind faith. Yes the aces did move by choice.The choice the promoters had was to move or close down as they said that speedway was not sustainable at the dog stadium. They stuck at it for 7 long years pushing on set back after set back and more than likely running at a loss for those years.But i kept the faith in their passion to keep our club alive and it paid off. Now the Swindon promoters are in the same position.There is written evidence that they are on the case and from what i have read they have the will to get the new stadium built so the fans have to have faith that they will ride all the set backs and get the job done.Even if it takes a little longer than people had hoped. The other option is to look at what happened to other clubs and come up with all sorts of reasons with no evidence only their opinion as to why they will fail Belle vue had plenty of them.I know where i would like my head to be over the coming months.KEEP THE FAITH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The SWC final was a victim of the timeline that Swindon are now encountering, but that dosent mean you doubters were right at all, come march next year all you doom mongers come along and see the venue you all said would never materialize....... We were right. We said planing and building a stadium could not happen in that time. It didn't happen so we were right. You can try and twist it so it means something else but that'd be you twisting things, not us being wrong. In the same way we said Swindon stood no chance of being in a new stadium in March, right now that prediction looks spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) I can't remember what you said SCB,if you only made a point about the SWC, fair enough, although the promotion were led to believe by people from the council that it would be built by then. However, there were those who said it would never be built and those are the people with egg on their faces. Speedway seems to be dogged by nerdowells and pessimists. Edited October 14, 2015 by Aces51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I can't remember what you said SCB,if you only made a point about the SWC, fair enough, although the promotion were led to believe by people from the council that it would be built by then. However, there were those who said it would never be built and those are the people with egg on their faces. Speedway seems to be dogged by nerdowells and pessimists. My point at the time was the timings. I've critisized the "announcements" (mainly by Phil Rising and not BV speedway tbf) too. But I and most other have always said it would be good for BV speedway and have not doubted it will happen, just when. The PR around the BV stadium has been a bit fo a disaster IMO and Swindon are doing the same with theirs. I'm sure people see people being negative about one aspect and just assume they're negative about the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The SWC final was a victim of the timeline that Swindon are now encountering, but that dosent mean you doubters were right at all, come march next year all you doom mongers come along and see the venue you all said would never materialize. No doubt all the saddos that take exception to any hint of good news happening in the sport will find something else to moan about, wether it be the track, the pies, the coffee not hot enough etc, there seems to be more anti speedway people on here nowadays putting down the sport, sitting behind their keyboards throwing out insults, no wonder so many decent posters have abandoned this site, im glead to say i will now be joining them. One other thing those that were deriding BV would have been better off worrying about their own club wouldnt they? It makes me laugh when those who said the national stadium wouldnt be built are so deluded they still think they were right. Excellent post...wouldn't have thought many of the 14000 members remain on here, so many negative fannies. Probably a tiny fraction of Robins fans actually contribute, it seems half on here don't go anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Either that or TR will get bored of the knockers and decide to shut the thing down until (if it happens) the new Stadium is in place. At least he could not then be accused of a 'con'. Plenty of rumours floating about re possible Clubs joining the EL....so could still be at minimum of 8 even without Swindon. What happened on Sunday was a con ...if he chooses to close the club because he does not like people telling the truth then so be it . you would have to be wet behind the ears to think that he thought that sunday meeting would the last at the abbey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just to slightly lighten the subject, as I approached our infamous back straight bogs for what I thought was the very last time on Sunday, I saw a couple, probably mid 40's in front of me. Male to female, (with serious face) " have you ever used these toilets before darling?" Reply, "no" Male to female , "i will wait outside for you then" Clearly male has taken notice of the Lord Lucan theory...... And my thoughts on the new stadium is that I reckon the new stadium will happen. But in my opinion, 2017 is a more realistic proposition. The man clearly doesn't care about his partner's well-being otherwise he would have escorted her to the main stand bogs, that my missus used after her back-straight experience last time. I overheard Clive Hitch saying"bloody ell are they still there". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 From the sound of it, those back straight loos at Swindon were disgusting, and the fact management didnt do anything about it over the many years they were in that state shows their lack of regard for the spectators they need to make the speedway pay. Probably factors like poor toilet facilities could be "the straw that broke the camels back" when someone decides to stop going to speedway. What was wrong with making sure the drainage was good, and putting in stainless steel urinals - the long tray things (assuming it didnt have these). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 From the sound of it, those back straight loos at Swindon were disgusting, and the fact management didnt do anything about it over the many years they were in that state shows their lack of regard for the spectators they need to make the speedway pay. Probably factors like poor toilet facilities could be "the straw that broke the camels back" when someone decides to stop going to speedway. What was wrong with making sure the drainage was good, and putting in stainless steel urinals - the long tray things (assuming it didnt have these). Perhaps they went for the retro-feel, at least they swapped the Izal shiny rolls for softer kinder material, and installed light-bulbs, toilet seats, water, and door-locks. The speedway club don't own the stadium though, and on dog-racing nights that part of the stadium is inaccessible to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 From the sound of it, those back straight loos at Swindon were disgusting, and the fact management didnt do anything about it over the many years they were in that state shows their lack of regard for the spectators they need to make the speedway pay. Probably factors like poor toilet facilities could be "the straw that broke the camels back" when someone decides to stop going to speedway. What was wrong with making sure the drainage was good, and putting in stainless steel urinals - the long tray things (assuming it didnt have these). The terrible facilities was the reason I stopped going to Swindon to watch the Bees................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 To be fair, I didn't see half as many cockroaches and wood lice gathered around the toilet seats on Sunday. The fetching blue paint had also freshened things up compared to the off white brown stained walls that had remained since the 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The terrible facilities was the reason I stopped going to Swindon to watch the Bees................... That's one plus of them . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 That's one plus of them . The plus was always missing you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The terrible facilities was the reason I stopped going to Swindon to watch the Bees................... Precisely...probably a few don't go because of this, a new stadium would increase crowds, but by the sound of it wont be happening for start of next season. Had to laugh a few months ago a tyre was on the ground to cover up a hole on the terraces, and a kiddie was talking to his dad and tripped over it..farcical but bloody funny though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Precisely...probably a few don't go because of this, a new stadium would increase crowds, but by the sound of it wont be happening for start of next season. Had to laugh a few months ago a tyre was on the ground to cover up a hole on the terraces, and a kiddie was talking to his dad and tripped over it..farcical but bloody funny though! There are/were dangerous areas at Brandon I believe, but at least I had a decent loo to visit and somewhere decent to sit... I hope you get your new stadium soon, I'll e happy to visit then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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